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Brian Winter on Brazil, Argentina, and the Future of Latin America

10 Jul 2024 20 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / evaluation

There are dishes and dances of the old Japanese community that have been preserved in Brazil in a way that they were not in Japan. It’s a country — in part, because of that rich tradition of immigration that we were discussing earlier — that has all kinds of enclaves like that, that are fascinating to visit.

“There are dishes and dances of the old Japanese community that have been preserved in Brazil in a way that they were not in Japan. It’s a country — in part, because of that rich tradition of immigration that we were discussing earlier — that has all kinds of enclaves like that, that are fascinating to visit.”
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Brian Winter
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02 / evaluation

As a matter of fact, with the spread of payment apps and Brazil’s digital currency, which is an amazing story in itself — it’s called Pix — a lot of Brazilian friends I know have stopped taking their cell phone out of the house at all because they’re afraid that either the phone will be stolen or they’ll be the victims of a kidnapping and made to empty their account.

“As a matter of fact, with the spread of payment apps and Brazil’s digital currency, which is an amazing story in itself — it’s called Pix — a lot of Brazilian friends I know have stopped taking their cell phone out of the house at all because they’re afraid that either the phone will be stolen or they’ll be the victims of a kidnapping and made to empty their account.”
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Brian Winter
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04 / belief

If you grew up in a place like Dallas — like I did — which was built entirely, for the most part, in the 20th century, I think there’s probably something of that that resonates with me.

“If you grew up in a place like Dallas — like I did — which was built entirely, for the most part, in the 20th century, I think there’s probably something of that that resonates with me.”
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Brian Winter
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06 / belief

I agree with your nostalgia point, but as I’m sure you know, there are so many very good startups from Argentina, though they may leave the country, go to Brazil, go to Mexico.

“I agree with your nostalgia point, but as I’m sure you know, there are so many very good startups from Argentina, though they may leave the country, go to Brazil, go to Mexico.”
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Tyler Cowen
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07 / belief

I agree with you when you say that there is no easy, fast, democratic route to improving security when you’re dealing with cartels and organized crime groups that have the resources that some of these groups do, with their pockets filled with the dollars of customers of cocaine in the United States, Europe, and other countries around Latin America.

“I agree with you when you say that there is no easy, fast, democratic route to improving security when you’re dealing with cartels and organized crime groups that have the resources that some of these groups do, with their pockets filled with the dollars of customers of cocaine in the United States, Europe, and other countries around Latin America.”
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Brian Winter
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10 / belief

What has happened to us that we’re no longer on the main stage to the degree that we were in the past?” I think some of it is that others have caught up.

“What has happened to us that we’re no longer on the main stage to the degree that we were in the past?” I think some of it is that others have caught up.”
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Brian Winter
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11 / evaluation

To the despair of some, that culture today — perhaps because it is somewhat derivative of country music in the United States — is not taking over the world in the same way that Jean Gilberto and Gilberto Gil and so many others did in the 1950s and 1960s.

“To the despair of some, that culture today — perhaps because it is somewhat derivative of country music in the United States — is not taking over the world in the same way that Jean Gilberto and Gilberto Gil and so many others did in the 1950s and 1960s.”
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Brian Winter
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12 / prediction

Some of these rail links are also improving. This is another area where, I think, if you take that longer-term perspective, things are getting a little bit better.

“Some of these rail links are also improving. This is another area where, I think, if you take that longer-term perspective, things are getting a little bit better.”
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Brian Winter
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13 / preference

Argentina might be the place for you because they are just averse — this has evolved a little bit over the years — but they’re so averse to sauce, specifically spice.

“Argentina might be the place for you because they are just averse — this has evolved a little bit over the years — but they’re so averse to sauce, specifically spice.”
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Brian Winter
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14 / evaluation

Keep in mind we were coming out of the 1990s, which was the peak of the post-Cold War period, the end of history, Washington Consensus, and everything like that. But everything that’s happened over the last several years, from the Great Recession of 2008 to things like the Iraq War, the problems that the US has had in our own democracy in that time have really, I think, impacted the way that journalists everywhere write about everything, I would hope.

“Keep in mind we were coming out of the 1990s, which was the peak of the post-Cold War period, the end of history, Washington Consensus, and everything like that. But everything that’s happened over the last several years, from the Great Recession of 2008 to things like the Iraq War, the problems that the US has had in our own democracy in that time have really, I think, impacted the way that journalists everywhere write about everything, I would hope.”
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Brian Winter
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16 / evaluation

I wrote an article about it for Americas Quarterly more than a year ago, and a lot of people dismissed it and said, “Oh, well, Uruguay — it’s so small.

“I wrote an article about it for Americas Quarterly more than a year ago, and a lot of people dismissed it and said, “Oh, well, Uruguay — it’s so small.”
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Brian Winter
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17 / evaluation

For societies that are not willing to tolerate that, that don’t have that patience — because they think that they’re going through a crisis, an emergency — I have to say I understand why Bukele has an approval rating upwards of 80 percent, because the results are real.

“For societies that are not willing to tolerate that, that don’t have that patience — because they think that they’re going through a crisis, an emergency — I have to say I understand why Bukele has an approval rating upwards of 80 percent, because the results are real.”
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Brian Winter
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18 / evaluation

I would gently point out — because I know that there are Brazilian listeners here who will recoil when I say this — but it has been 22 years since Brazil won the last World Cup, which is quite serious for a country that has won five World Cups over the years, more than any other country.

“I would gently point out — because I know that there are Brazilian listeners here who will recoil when I say this — but it has been 22 years since Brazil won the last World Cup, which is quite serious for a country that has won five World Cups over the years, more than any other country.”
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Brian Winter
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19 / prediction

I think that you find unhappy people in Brazil too, but there’s a joy in life that people manage to seize upon, even when the economy is not doing well, perhaps because they’re accustomed to this kind of slow growth situation that we’ve been talking about.

“I think that you find unhappy people in Brazil too, but there’s a joy in life that people manage to seize upon, even when the economy is not doing well, perhaps because they’re accustomed to this kind of slow growth situation that we’ve been talking about.”
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Brian Winter
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20 / prediction

It’s gone from, I believe, somewhere in the upper 40s to about 56 percent today. It’s not because Brazil became more Black or had more mixed-race people, but because people are more inclined to identify themselves with pride as being part of that group.

“It’s gone from, I believe, somewhere in the upper 40s to about 56 percent today. It’s not because Brazil became more Black or had more mixed-race people, but because people are more inclined to identify themselves with pride as being part of that group.”
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Brian Winter
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