Lex Fridman Podcast / episode intelligence
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01 / recommendation
“I mean, ultimately, if you’re a skilled driver, you can get good results with any of those latest gen models. Um, I like Codex more because it doesn’t require so much charade.”
02 / evaluation
“In a way empathetic, but yeah, you, you, like, you’re bitch at your stupid clanker, but you don’t realize that they start from nothing and you have, like, a bad agent in default that doesn’t help them at all.”
03 / belief
“I think there is, there’s n- there’s better ways how we eventually will communicate with models, and we are still very early in this, how will it even work phase.”
04 / belief
“I think that we passed that age, and now everything is, like, much more connected and, and fluid if those companies want it or not.”
05 / belief
“On the other hand, I put my public bot on discord, and I kept a cannery. So I think my bot has a really fun personality, and people always ask me how I did it, and I kept the sole on the private.”
06 / belief
“I think you’ve spoken about Codex reading more and Opus being more willing to take action faster and maybe being more creative in the actions it takes.”
07 / belief
“Y- I think you, you pick stuff up really fast, and you can always ask your agent.”
08 / belief
““Wow, this is the smartest thing of all time,” and then they start saying, “You could just watch the Reddit posts over time,” start saying that, “We believe the intelligence of this model has been gradually degrading.”
09 / belief
“Um, I now use, I think Perplexity or Brave as providers because Google really doesn’t make it easy to use Google without Google.”
10 / belief
“There’s to steel man the, the criticism in general, I do wanna say in my experience with Silicon Valley there’s a bit of a bubble in the sense that there’s a kind of excitement and an over-focus about the positive that the technology can bring.”
11 / belief
“I think no matter what the stuff you’re building and the kind of human you are doing stuff at scale is kinda awesome.”
12 / belief
“If it’s bad, amazing, because, like, I learned something, I saw something, did something.”
13 / belief
“A lot of it I think mapped from… If you get really good at coding that means you have to be really good at general purpose problem solving.”
14 / uncertainty
“Like, I don’t know, we talked about the movie Her, and at one point it promised me that it wouldn’t, it wouldn’t ascend without me.”
15 / evaluation
“I am super pumped. And you know the beauty is if, if it doesn’t work out, I can just do my own thing again.”
16 / belief
“I’d much rather read your prompt than what came out. Um, I think we’re reaching a point where I value typos again.”
17 / belief
“I think partially why I find it quite easy to work with agents is because I led engineering teams before.”
18 / belief
“I think at some point it’s just gonna be called coding again, and it’s just gonna be the new normal.”
19 / belief
“I think I also speak for a lot of people in saying, I think you’re one of the, the great people in AI in terms of having a good heart, good vibes, humor, the right spirit. And so it would, in a sense, this model that you’re describing, having open source part, and you being part of uh, also building a thing inside, additionally, of a large company would be great, because it’s great to have good people in those companies.”
20 / belief
“Some of the other aspects of the dev workflow is pretty interesting too. I think we w- went off on a tangent.”
21 / belief
“I was really excited by the diagrams. And then I realized, in order to remove from them hallucinations, you actually have to do a huge amount of work.”
22 / belief
“For most of my life I’ve been a Linux, Windows and WSL1, WSL2 person, which I think are all wonderful, but I… expanding to also trying Mac. Because it’s another way of building and it’s also a way of building that a large part of the community currently that’s utilizing LMS and agents is using, so.”
23 / uncertainty
“Like, the bar to do that was so high, and, like, with agents, and with the right software, it just, like, went lower and lower. I don’t know.”
24 / belief
“” You know, if, if I wouldn’t have created this, this whole onboarding experience where you, you infuse your agent with your personality and give him, give him character, I think that reflected on a lot of how different the replies to MoltBook are.”
25 / uncertainty
“Like, often it would give me four questions and then maybe I write, “One yacht, two and three, discuss more, four, I don’t know.”
26 / uncertainty
“Being able to use a chat client to talk to an agent, versus, like, sitting behind a computer and like, I don’t know, using cursor or even using Cloud Code CLI in the terminal.”
27 / evaluation
“You know? Like the philosophical way, that the end doesn’t matter, the journey matters.”
28 / belief
“If it’s something that… where I care about performance a lot then it’s, it’s a really interesting language.”
29 / belief
“Uh, I think that’s a space we’re just beginning to even understand what that means.”
30 / uncertainty
“I don’t know, hundreds of millions, billions. I don’t know. It could just got unlimited amount of money.”
31 / observation
“The point is, that whole saga made a dent in your whole f- the funness of the journey, which sucks.”
32 / uncertainty
“A, agent would not come up with that by itself. Because that’s like… that’s the… I don’t know.”
33 / commitment
“We’ll talk to our AI agent to, to accomplish different tasks, to learn about different things, but we won’t value online interaction because there’ll be so much AI slob that smells and so many bots that it’s difficult.”
34 / uncertainty
“Like, there’s certain companies and approaches th- that can just suffocate the spirit of the thing. I don’t know what that is.”
35 / uncertainty
“You can run this on, on, on Keyme or other, other, other models that are way more accessible price-wise, and still have a, a very powerful system that might otherwise not be possible. Because other things like, I don’t know, Entropik’s CoWork is locked in into their space, so it’s not all black and white.”
36 / belief
“I think that if you have a very low per day baseline per account that allows read-only access would solve a lot of problems.”
37 / belief
“I think the level of expectation of what we build is also rising because it’s just now… The default is now so much easier, so software is changing in many ways.”
38 / belief
“If I decide, oh, no, I don’t like the name, I’ll just make it harder for them. So, that requires, I think, a shift in, in thinking and, and in how do I design a, a project so agents can do their best work.”
39 / belief
“I don’t actually care. I care about solve my problem. There’s space for- for new companies to solve that well.”
40 / evaluation
“There’s so many people that come from Claude Code and they’re so, so Claude-pilled and, like, have their workflows and they come to Codex and… Now, it has plan mode, I think, but I don’t think it’s necessary because you just- you just talk to the agent.”
41 / evaluation
“There’s, like, I think every VC, every big VC company is in my inbox and tried to get 15 minutes of me.”
42 / preference
“Um…… of when I build Mac apps, I build them in, in Swift and SwiftUI, mm, partly because I like pain, partly because it… the, the deepest level of system integration, I can only get through there.”
43 / preference
“I have a little bit of actual terminal, mostly because when I started, I- I sometimes made the mistake and I- I mi- I mixed up the- the windows, and I gave… I- I prompted in the wrong project, and then the agent ran off for, like, 20 minutes, manically trying to understand what I could have meant, being completely confused because it was the wrong folder.”
44 / preference
“I’ve, I’ve spent so many, I don’t know, maybe thousands of hours poring over code and putting my heart and soul and, like, and just, like, some of my most painful and happiest moments were alone behind… I, I was an Emacs person for a long time.”
45 / evaluation
“Again, you know, like, people love attention, and if they scream loudly, “Oh my God, this is like the, the scariest project ever,” um, that’s a bit annoying, ’cause it’s not. It is, it is powerful, but in many ways it’s not much different than if I run cloud code with dangerously skipped permissions or codecs in YOLO mode, and every, every attending engineer that I know does that, because that’s the only way how you can, you can get stuff to work.”
46 / recommendation
“In fact, maybe don’t use my project because my- my backlog is very large, but I learned so much from open source.”
47 / evaluation
“The, the programming language doesn’t matter so much, but the ecosystem matters, right? So I picked TypeScript because I wanted it to be very easy and hackable and approachable and that’s the number one language that’s being used right now, and it fits all these boxes, and agents are good at it.”
48 / preference
“I prefer the dry, the dry version where I have to read less over, over the more interactive nice way.”
49 / recommendation
“So I checked out the header of the file and it found that it was, like, opus so I used ffmpeg to convert it”