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Lex Fridman: uncertainty

12 Feb 2026 Lex Fridman Podcast #491 – OpenClaw: The Viral AI Agent that Broke the Internet – Peter Steinberger

“Being able to use a chat client to talk to an agent, versus, like, sitting behind a computer and like, I don’t know, using cursor or even using Cloud Code CLI in the terminal.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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12 Feb 2026
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Yeah. It was slow because every time I boot up the CLI, but it… It was really cool already. And it could just use all the things that I already had built. I had built like a whole bunch of CLI stuff over the month so it, it felt really powerful. There is something magical about that experience that’s hard to put into words. Being able to use a chat client to talk to an agent, versus, like, sitting behind a computer and like, I don’t know, using cursor or even using Cloud Code CLI in the terminal. It’s a different experience than being able to sit back and talk to it. I mean, it seems like a trivial step but, it- in some sense it’s a… It’s like a phase shift in the integration of AI into your life and how it feels, right? Yeah. Yeah. I, I read this tweet this morning where someone said, “Oh, there’s no magic in it. It’s just like, it does this and this and this and this and this and this.” And it almost feels like a hobby, just as cursor or perplexity. And I’m like, well, if that’s a hobby that’s kind of a compliment, you know? They’re like, they’re not doing too bad. Thank you I guess? Yes. I mean, isn’t, isn’t, isn’t magic often just like you take a lot of things that are already there but bring them together in new ways? Like, I don’t… There’s no… Yeah. Maybe there’s no magic in there but sometimes just rearranging things and, like, adding a few new ideas is all the magic that you need.…

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