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The Godmother of AI on jobs, robots, and why world models are next | Dr. Fei-Fei Li

16 Nov 2025 24 published claims 2 attributable people

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03 / evaluation

Figma Make is a different kind of vibe coding tool. Because it's all in Figma, you can use your team's existing design building blocks, making it easy to create outputs that look good and feel real and are connected to how your team builds.

“Figma Make is a different kind of vibe coding tool. Because it's all in Figma, you can use your team's existing design building blocks, making it easy to create outputs that look good and feel real and are connected to how your team builds.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / belief

I think a simple way to understand a world model is that this model can allow anyone to create any worlds in their mind's eye by prompting whether it's an image or a sentence.

“I think a simple way to understand a world model is that this model can allow anyone to create any worlds in their mind's eye by prompting whether it's an image or a sentence.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / belief

I think that we shouldn't underestimate or maybe we tend not to talk about how humans, as an embodied agents, can actually benefit so much from world models and spatial intelligence models as well as robots can.

“I think that we shouldn't underestimate or maybe we tend not to talk about how humans, as an embodied agents, can actually benefit so much from world models and spatial intelligence models as well as robots can.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

06 / belief

I think scaling loss of more data, more GPUs, and bigger current model architecture is there's still a lot to be done there, but I absolutely think we need to innovate more.

“I think scaling loss of more data, more GPUs, and bigger current model architecture is there's still a lot to be done there, but I absolutely think we need to innovate more.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / belief

We're going to talk about a bunch of the history that I think a lot of people don't even know about how this whole thing started, but let me first read a quote from Wired about you just so people get a sense, and in the intro I'll share all of the other epic things you've done.

“We're going to talk about a bunch of the history that I think a lot of people don't even know about how this whole thing started, but let me first read a quote from Wired about you just so people get a sense, and in the intro I'll share all of the other epic things you've done.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / belief

I do remember the companies, the tech companies, I am not going to name names, but I was in a conversation in one of the early days, I think is in the middle of 2015, middle of 2016, some tech companies avoid using the word AI because they were not sure if AI was a dirty word.

“I do remember the companies, the tech companies, I am not going to name names, but I was in a conversation in one of the early days, I think is in the middle of 2015, middle of 2016, some tech companies avoid using the word AI because they were not sure if AI was a dirty word.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / belief

Some people start calling it AI, but I think if you look at the Silicon Valley tech companies, if you trace their marketing term, I think 2017-ish was the beginning of companies calling themselves AI companies.

“Some people start calling it AI, but I think if you look at the Silicon Valley tech companies, if you trace their marketing term, I think 2017-ish was the beginning of companies calling themselves AI companies.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

15 / recommendation

If you are a nurse, I hope you know that at least in my career, I have worked so much in healthcare research because I feel our healthcare workers should be greatly augmented and helped by AI technology, whether it's smart cameras to feed more information or robotic assistance because our nurses are overworked, overfatigued, and as our society ages, we need more help for people to be taken care of.

“If you are a nurse, I hope you know that at least in my career, I have worked so much in healthcare research because I feel our healthcare workers should be greatly augmented and helped by AI technology, whether it's smart cameras to feed more information or robotic assistance because our nurses are overworked, overfatigued, and as our society ages, we need more help for people to be taken care of.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

17 / evaluation

For example, messy scenes or clean scenes or whatever you name it. And it's very hard for researchers to get their hands on these kind of immersive scenes and it will take them too long and too much budget to create.

“For example, messy scenes or clean scenes or whatever you name it. And it's very hard for researchers to get their hands on these kind of immersive scenes and it will take them too long and too much budget to create.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

19 / preference

And in fact, just a couple of weeks ago, we rolled out the world's first real time demoable, real-time video generation on a single H100 GPU. So part of our technology includes that, but I think Marble is very different because we really want creators, designers, developers to have in their hands a model that can give them worlds with 3D structures so they can use it for their work.

“And in fact, just a couple of weeks ago, we rolled out the world's first real time demoable, real-time video generation on a single H100 GPU. So part of our technology includes that, but I think Marble is very different because we really want creators, designers, developers to have in their hands a model that can give them worlds with 3D structures so they can use it for their work.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

20 / preference

I'm an intellectually very fearless person, and I have to say when I hire young people, I look for that because I think that's a very important quality if one wants to make a difference, is that when you want to make a difference, you have to accept that you're creating something new or you're diving into something new.

“I'm an intellectually very fearless person, and I have to say when I hire young people, I look for that because I think that's a very important quality if one wants to make a difference, is that when you want to make a difference, you have to accept that you're creating something new or you're diving into something new.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

21 / preference

There wasn't that much funding, but there was also a lot of ideas flowing around. And I think two things happened to myself that brought my own career so close to the birth of modern AI is that I chose to look at artificial intelligence through the lens of visual intelligence because humans are deeply visual animals.

“There wasn't that much funding, but there was also a lot of ideas flowing around. And I think two things happened to myself that brought my own career so close to the birth of modern AI is that I chose to look at artificial intelligence through the lens of visual intelligence because humans are deeply visual animals.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / preference

As a scientist, I take science very seriously and I enter the field because I was inspired by this audacious question of, can machines think and do things in the way that humans can do?

“As a scientist, I take science very seriously and I enter the field because I was inspired by this audacious question of, can machines think and do things in the way that humans can do?”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

23 / evaluation

We also actually put a very strong focus on policy because when we started HAI, I realized that Silicon Valley did not talk to Washington DC and or Brussels or other parts of the world.

“We also actually put a very strong focus on policy because when we started HAI, I realized that Silicon Valley did not talk to Washington DC and or Brussels or other parts of the world.”
Speaker
Dr. Fei Fei Li
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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