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Dr. Fei Fei Li: evaluation

16 Nov 2025 Lenny's Podcast The Godmother of AI on jobs, robots, and why world models are next | Dr. Fei-Fei Li

“For example, messy scenes or clean scenes or whatever you name it. And it's very hard for researchers to get their hands on these kind of immersive scenes and it will take them too long and too much budget to create.”

— Dr. Fei Fei Li

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Dr. Fei Fei Li
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16 Nov 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…40X? Yes, in fact it has to, because we only had one month to work on this project and there were so many things they were trying to shoot. So using Marble really, really significantly accelerated the virtual production for VFX and movies. That's one use cases. We are already seeing our users taking our Marble scene and taking the mesh export and putting games, whether it's games on VR or just fun games that they have developed. We are showing an example of robotic simulation because when I was, I mean I still am a researcher doing robotic training. One of the biggest pain point is to create synthetic data for training robots. And this synthetic data needs to be very diverse. They need to come from different environments with different objects to manipulate. And one path to it is to ask computers to simulate. Otherwise, humans have to build every single asset for robots. That's just going to take a lot longer. So we already have researchers reaching out and wanting to use Marble to create those synthetic environments. We also have unexpected user outreach in terms of how they want to use Marble. For example, a psychologist team called us to use Marble to do psychology research. It turned out some of the psychiatric patients they study, they need to understand how their brain respond to different immersive things of different features. For example, messy scenes or clean scenes or whatever you name it. And it's very hard for researchers to get their hands on these kind of immersive scenes and it will take them too long and too much budget to create. And Marble is a really almost instantaneous way of getting so many of these experimental environments into their hands. So we're seeing multiple use cases at this point. But the VFX, the game developers, the simulation developers as well as designers are very excited. This is very much the way things work in AI. I've had other AI leaders on the podcast and it's always put things out there early as soon as you can to discover where the big use cases are. The head of ChatGPT told me how, when they first put out ChatGPT, he was just scanning TikTok to see how people were using it and all the things they were talking about, and that's what convinced them where to lean in and help them see how people actually want to use it. I love this last use case for therapy. I'm just imagining heights, people dealing with heights or snakes or spiders, which-…

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