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Latent.Space 2024 Year in Review

31 Dec 2024 44 published claims 2 attributable people

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belief 26evaluation 7uncertainty 4recommendation 2prediction 2observation 1commitment 1preference 1

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01 / evaluation

Yeah. And the big thing was like the mixed trial price fights, you know, and I think now it's almost like there's nowhere to go, like, you know, Gemini Flash is like basically giving it away for free.

“Yeah. And the big thing was like the mixed trial price fights, you know, and I think now it's almost like there's nowhere to go, like, you know, Gemini Flash is like basically giving it away for free.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

02 / observation

Sombra to congregate, and then the AI engineer summit. And that's why when I look at our growth chart, it's kind of like a proxy for like the AI engineering industry as a whole, which is almost like, like, even if we don't do that much, we keep growing just because there's so many more AI engineers.

“Sombra to congregate, and then the AI engineer summit. And that's why when I look at our growth chart, it's kind of like a proxy for like the AI engineering industry as a whole, which is almost like, like, even if we don't do that much, we keep growing just because there's so many more AI engineers.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

05 / belief

I think the collective terminology has been inference time, and I think that makes sense because test time, calling it test, meaning, has a very pre trained bias, meaning that the only reason for running inference at all is to test your model.

“I think the collective terminology has been inference time, and I think that makes sense because test time, calling it test, meaning, has a very pre trained bias, meaning that the only reason for running inference at all is to test your model.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

07 / belief

I think in AI you see this a lot, which is like a lot of stars, a lot of interest at a rate that you didn't really see in the past in open source, where nobody's running to start.

“I think in AI you see this a lot, which is like a lot of stars, a lot of interest at a rate that you didn't really see in the past in open source, where nobody's running to start.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

09 / belief

Everyone knew, like, F1 we had a preview at the Fireworks HQ, and then [01:37:00] I think some other labs did it, but I think R1 and QWQ, Quill, from the Quent team, Both Alibaba affiliated, I think, are the leading contenders on that front end.

“Everyone knew, like, F1 we had a preview at the Fireworks HQ, and then [01:37:00] I think some other labs did it, but I think R1 and QWQ, Quill, from the Quent team, Both Alibaba affiliated, I think, are the leading contenders on that front end.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

15 / belief

I think every, I mean, there should be, just like every consumer product is going to have a, going to eventually want a gateway, you know, for, for managing their requests and ops tool, you know, that kind of stuff, um, code interpreter for maybe not exposing the code, but executing code under the hood for sure.

“I think every, I mean, there should be, just like every consumer product is going to have a, going to eventually want a gateway, you know, for, for managing their requests and ops tool, you know, that kind of stuff, um, code interpreter for maybe not exposing the code, but executing code under the hood for sure.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

20 / belief

I think the point of the talk was like everybody, we're scaling these chips, we're scaling the compute, but like the second ingredient which is data is not scaling at the same rate.

“I think the point of the talk was like everybody, we're scaling these chips, we're scaling the compute, but like the second ingredient which is data is not scaling at the same rate.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

23 / belief

NVIDIA, I think we continue to talk about, I think I was at the Taiwanese trade show, Comtex, and saw him signing, you know, You know, women body [01:30:00] parts. And I think that was maybe a sign of the times, maybe a sign that things have peaked, but things are clearly not peaked because they continued going.

“NVIDIA, I think we continue to talk about, I think I was at the Taiwanese trade show, Comtex, and saw him signing, you know, You know, women body [01:30:00] parts. And I think that was maybe a sign of the times, maybe a sign that things have peaked, but things are clearly not peaked because they continued going.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

24 / belief

I think if your, if your, your job is a, at least AI content creator or VC or, you know, someone who, whose job it is to stay on, stay on top of things, you should already be spending like a thousand dollars a month on, on stuff.

“I think if your, if your, your job is a, at least AI content creator or VC or, you know, someone who, whose job it is to stay on, stay on top of things, you should already be spending like a thousand dollars a month on, on stuff.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

26 / belief

Um, and that one, I would say Risa is obviously a star, but she's been on every episode, every podcast, but Isamah, I think, you know, actually being the guy who worked on the audio model, being able to talk to him, I think was, was a great gift for us.

“Um, and that one, I would say Risa is obviously a star, but she's been on every episode, every podcast, but Isamah, I think, you know, actually being the guy who worked on the audio model, being able to talk to him, I think was, was a great gift for us.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

29 / belief

Uh, I think, um, I have been asked my opinion on this before, and I said, I think I said it on a podcast, which is like, the main layer that you need is [01:38:00] the separate off roles, so that you don't assume it's a human, um, doing these things.

“Uh, I think, um, I have been asked my opinion on this before, and I said, I think I said it on a podcast, which is like, the main layer that you need is [01:38:00] the separate off roles, so that you don't assume it's a human, um, doing these things.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

34 / belief

I mean, I'm curious, I think Dylan, At the debate he said SweetBench 80 percent was like a soap for end of next year as a kind of like, you know, watermark that the moms are still improving.

“I mean, I'm curious, I think Dylan, At the debate he said SweetBench 80 percent was like a soap for end of next year as a kind of like, you know, watermark that the moms are still improving.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

37 / evaluation

Um, and I think today the, the problem is that, Yeah, the agents are, that most people are building are good at following instruction, but are not as good as like extracting them from you.

“Um, and I think today the, the problem is that, Yeah, the agents are, that most people are building are good at following instruction, but are not as good as like extracting them from you.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

39 / prediction

So likewise at Meta, likewise at OpenAI, likewise at the other labs as well. So like the GPU ultra rich are going to keep doing that because I think partially it's an article of faith now that you just need it.

“So likewise at Meta, likewise at OpenAI, likewise at the other labs as well. So like the GPU ultra rich are going to keep doing that because I think partially it's an article of faith now that you just need it.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

40 / evaluation

I think to me that the most interesting is like rest and GraphQL is almost more interesting in the world of agents because agents could come up with so many different things to query versus like before I always thought GraphQL was kind of like not really necessary because like, you know what you need, just build the rest end point for it.

“I think to me that the most interesting is like rest and GraphQL is almost more interesting in the world of agents because agents could come up with so many different things to query versus like before I always thought GraphQL was kind of like not really necessary because like, you know what you need, just build the rest end point for it.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

41 / recommendation

Oh yeah, magically going to close the gap between the closed source and open source. So basically I think my advice to people is keep track of the slow cooking of benchmark language because the labs that are not that frontier will keep measuring themselves on last year's benchmarks and then the labs that are actually frontier will Tell you about [01:09:00] benchmarks you've never heard of and you'll be like, Oh, like, okay, there's, there's new, there's new territory to, to, to go on.

“Oh yeah, magically going to close the gap between the closed source and open source. So basically I think my advice to people is keep track of the slow cooking of benchmark language because the labs that are not that frontier will keep measuring themselves on last year's benchmarks and then the labs that are actually frontier will Tell you about [01:09:00] benchmarks you've never heard of and you'll be like, Oh, like, okay, there's, there's new, there's new territory to, to, to go on.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space
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