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Alessio Fanelli: uncertainty

31 Dec 2024 Latent Space Latent.Space 2024 Year in Review

“There was maybe like a hype winter, but I don't know if that counts as a real winter.”

— Alessio Fanelli

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Alessio Fanelli
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Recorded
31 Dec 2024
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Latent Space

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…Yeah, so I would definitely point to our newest 7 hour long episode on Simulative Environments because it is the, let's say the scaled up, very serious AGI lab version of WebSim and MobileSim. If you take it very, very [01:47:00] seriously, you get Genie 2, which is exactly what you need to then build Sora and everything else. Um, so yeah, I think, uh, Simulative AI, still in summer. Still in summer. Still, still coming. And I was actually reflecting on this, like, would you, would you say that the AI winter has, like, coming on? Or, like, was it never even here? Because we did AI Winter episode, and I, you know, I was, like, trying to look for signs. I think that's kind of gone now. Yeah. I would say. It was here in the vibes, but not really in the reality. You know, when you look back at the yearly recap, it's like every month there was like progress. There wasn't really a winter. There was maybe like a hype winter, but I don't know if that counts as a real winter. I think the scaling has hit a wall thing has been a big driving discussion for 2024. Yeah. And, you know, with some amount of conclusion on, in Europe's that we were also kind of pointing to in the winter episode, but like, it's not a winter by any means. Yeah, we know what winter feels like. It is not winter. So I think things are, things are going well. [01:48:00] I think every time that people think that there's like, Not much happening in AI, just think back to this time last year, right? And understand how much has changed from benchmarks to frontier models to market share between OpenAI and the rest. And then also cover like, you know, the, the various coverage areas that we've marked out, how the discussion has, has evolved a lot and what we take for granted now versus what we did not have a year ago.…

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