book / recommends
The Purpose Driven Church
“the best book anyone's ever recommended to me to read, which I now recommend to others, is The Purpose Driven Church by a pastor called Rick Warren.”
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Tom Verrilli
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book / recommends
Babel
“Okay. Not to be cliched, but The Hard Thing about Hard Things I still think is the best book written about product management, just from a breadth of things that you have to go through and try and do and screw up a lot. Slightly left field, but the best book anyone's ever recommended to me to read, which I now recommend to others, is The Purpose Driven Church by a pastor called Rick Warren. Emmett Shear, the CEO at Twitch, used to basically make sure that people read it. It's this wild examination of why people emotionally invest in something and how to engineer emotional investment into it from a group of people. It's literally a how to go and build a church guidebook written in the '90s. Definitely worth a read if you're in a community product of any form. And the last one is if you're looking for fiction or fantasy, which is where I tend to go in the evening, Babel by R.F. Kuang.”
book / recommends
The Hard Thing about Hard Things
“Okay. Not to be cliched, but The Hard Thing about Hard Things I still think is the best book written about product management, just from a breadth of things that you have to go through and try and do and screw up a lot. Slightly left field, but the best book anyone's ever recommended to me to read, which I now recommend to others, is The Purpose Driven Church by a pastor called Rick Warren. Emmett Shear, the CEO at Twitch, used to basically make sure that people read it. It's this wild examination of why people emotionally invest in something and how to engineer emotional investment into it from a group of people. It's literally a how to go and build a church guidebook written in the '90s. Definitely worth a read if you're in a community product of any form. And the last one is if you're looking for fiction or fantasy, which is where I tend to go in the evening, Babel by R.F. Kuang.”
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01 / belief
I think there's a second failure mode, which is people sit down and write out these long roadmaps and strategic vision docs of what we'll do over the next two or three years that kind of loses the comparative advantage we have over every other industry, which is learning.
“I think there's a second failure mode, which is people sit down and write out these long roadmaps and strategic vision docs of what we'll do over the next two or three years that kind of loses the comparative advantage we have over every other industry, which is learning.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast
02 / belief
I can go very, very deep when required, but I'm mostly broad across pieces. And I think the idea of just hiring people, and then not asking any more questions and delegating all of the detail just isn't really the most successful model for getting the most out of an organization.
“I can go very, very deep when required, but I'm mostly broad across pieces. And I think the idea of just hiring people, and then not asking any more questions and delegating all of the detail just isn't really the most successful model for getting the most out of an organization.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast
03 / belief
Have a plan. I think the system works this way. I have this belief that if we change the way that discovery algorithms work for XYZ reasons, it will have this impact.
“Have a plan. I think the system works this way. I have this belief that if we change the way that discovery algorithms work for XYZ reasons, it will have this impact.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast
04 / belief
I don't pretend to presume that that will be true for the entire industry, but I do think there has never been a better time to go back to the roots of the actual product work and getting out of that theater. And I think that probably is true everywhere, even if you are still, there are people who are wonderful people managers and really derive their satisfaction from doing that and growing and coaching.
“I don't pretend to presume that that will be true for the entire industry, but I do think there has never been a better time to go back to the roots of the actual product work and getting out of that theater. And I think that probably is true everywhere, even if you are still, there are people who are wonderful people managers and really derive their satisfaction from doing that and growing and coaching.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast
05 / belief
Are you then running, you stand up, and we go? I think all of that is just core individual IC work.
“Are you then running, you stand up, and we go? I think all of that is just core individual IC work.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast
06 / belief
I think jokingly one of the PMs on the team has referred to it as the two dads problem where you've just got two people issuing conflicting instructions, or somebody wants to review and then you do all this work to present it to me, and then you go back and it gets a different thing.
“I think jokingly one of the PMs on the team has referred to it as the two dads problem where you've just got two people issuing conflicting instructions, or somebody wants to review and then you do all this work to present it to me, and then you go back and it gets a different thing.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast
07 / belief
Certainly I think trending up over time within these roles are these kind of, and I don't remember the exact label that people used to use, but this idea of tech leads that are kind of like a hybrid EM where you're running a very small team, running at things.
“Certainly I think trending up over time within these roles are these kind of, and I don't remember the exact label that people used to use, but this idea of tech leads that are kind of like a hybrid EM where you're running a very small team, running at things.”
- Speaker
- Tom Verrilli
- Publisher
- Lenny's Podcast