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34 transcript-backed records
01 / observation
“The mission is very clear, and the problem is that right now we’ve been playing defense and sustaining losses.”
02 / evaluation
“People are like, “This is the worst example of white people shit I’ve ever seen.”
03 / belief
“I think going on a boat trip through the Amazon, not a hiking one— —where we’re going through some really… there’s areas where you can get permits to go through areas where no one’s allowed to go.”
04 / belief
“Smiles come at some point. I would say that one of these guys seemed like he was in a leadership position.”
05 / belief
“The rock-paper-scissors of land predators. I think like polar bear and tiger gotta be the most scary.”
06 / preference
“There’s that quote that someone less qualified than you is living your dream life and has your dream job right now, and I am the poster child for that because I failed out of high school and started taking unmatriculated college classes and going to the jungle with my friend JJ and just doing it for the sheer love of it for years, almost a decade, before anything surfaced.”
07 / evaluation
“What we do is we take loggers and gold miners and make them into rangers and give them better jobs, and we try to protect the forest.”
08 / commitment
“Because our first conversation led to the first surge where people realized what Jungle Keepers was— —and then because we got this surge of support, we were able to expand our work, protect more acres.”
09 / evaluation
“It’s one of the last places that’s untouched. This changed everything because we realized that along with the butterflies and the monkeys and the jaguars and the trees and the ecosystem, there’s also a human culture that will, in the next few years, cease to exist, that will be exterminated if we don’t protect them.”
10 / prediction
“These landowners are going to sell their forest to the logging companies because owning 10,000 acres of the Amazon doesn’t help you if you’re a third generation jungle man.”
11 / belief
“Anacondas, the largest snake on Earth, bushmasters that can grow up to be nine to, I think even 11- feet long.”
12 / uncertainty
“Like day one, it was very much like “So are we going to…”, and then I could see your brow sort of furrow and I would go, “I don’t know what time we’re going to get there.”
13 / uncertainty
“I don’t know, man. I never thought about it. I mean bullet ant has these giant, giant, giant mandibles that could probably grab the black caiman and then at that amount of venom, you’re talking about a bucket of venom going into that black caiman.”
14 / belief
“I think that because people live indoors in climate controlled boxes in cities far away from nature, they’ve completely lost track of everything that’s real.”
15 / belief
“I think the brutality of nature is the chaos, and I think that we are the only ones in it that are capable of organizing in the direction of order and light.”
16 / belief
“I think that there’s those higher… No one’s suggesting that sardines somehow need human rights or something, but I think that elephants need representation in governments because they influence their landscape, they engineer their environment.”
17 / belief
“Mountain lions, pumas, whatever the… There’s all different names for them. They’re distributed from, I think from Alaska down through Argentina.”
18 / belief
“I think that ayahuasca is, I can only speak from personal experience, and for me it was as if your brain is a house you’ve lived in your entire life and it’s a big house, it’s a mansion, and there’s many, many rooms that you didn’t even know exist.”
19 / belief
“I think, to me, life is something that grows in response to stimuli, like in basic biology 101.”
20 / belief
“I think living out here has made me think of fish as a rapid food that can or can’t be gotten.”
21 / uncertainty
“We’re seeing snakes where they’re saying, “We saw this snake inside a crevice, on that tree, in the strangler fig, and we don’t know what it is.”
22 / uncertainty
“I think we got it all wrong. N, I don’t know. It seems like they change it all the time.”
23 / belief
“You can write down a calculation on a napkin, you can cite different Hollywood movies, you can point up to the pieces of light in the stars, but if I talk about show me a single cell that’s not from this planet, it’s still not possible. And so I agree with you that the likelihood is there, all indications point to it.”
24 / belief
“Through technology and organization, there’s so many people, more people today than ever before, I think, who are so concerned, who realize that the incredible power, like what Jane Goodall says about how you can affect the people around you.”
25 / belief
“I think that he was a weak, asthmatic, little rich kid that wasn’t physically able, that had no self-confidence, and he had pretty severe depression.”
26 / belief
“I think that, that image is so wrong because, as you saw last night, we could go.”
27 / commitment
“Now, 11-feet later, by the head, the snake turned around and just said, “If you want to meet God, I can arrange the meeting. I will oblige.”
28 / evaluation
“The rivers are filled with trash and, yeah, extinction is happening, but we have to be an interplanetary species anyway, because at any moment this could all end from an asteroid and everything’s going to shit anyway, and so it’s like we’re fucking up this planet.”
29 / evaluation
“I love that. And so the rainforests to me are the greatest celebration of life and probably the greatest challenge for us as a global society because if we can’t protect the crown jewel, the best thing, the most beautiful part, then we’re really, really missing the point.”
30 / prediction
“This is the testing ground for something bigger and this complexity and this diversity of life and this life that we have is that important. And I think that part of what we do when we go, “Oh, yeah, but there’s other planets where…” First of all, we’re taking an assumption into reality without… I mean aliens right now are about as real as Santa Claus.”
31 / evaluation
“Now, just think about this, I think scientifically, because people like to summarize, people like to get really, really cavalier with our scientific progress, and they go, “We’ve already explored the Amazon.”
32 / evaluation
“To be able to observe it over time, to learn its habits or to put a radio transmitter on it or to take any sort of valuable information from the experience is almost impossible. And so a lot of the stuff that I wrote about in Mother of God, us jumping on anacondas and trying to catch them, and at first it just seemed like something we were doing to just try and see them.”
33 / commitment
“I got to contribute because I had the only photograph that I believe anyone has of an emperor tamarin on this river.”
34 / prediction
“Big white moth. I believe that we still don’t know what the caterpillar looks like.”