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#429 – Paul Rosolie: Jungle, Apex Predators, Aliens, Uncontacted Tribes, and God

15 May 2024 43 published claims 2 attributable people
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03 / uncertainty

Like day one, it was very much like “So are we going to…”, and then I could see your brow sort of furrow and I would go, “I don’t know what time we’re going to get there.

“Like day one, it was very much like “So are we going to…”, and then I could see your brow sort of furrow and I would go, “I don’t know what time we’re going to get there.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

04 / uncertainty

I don’t know, man. I never thought about it. I mean bullet ant has these giant, giant, giant mandibles that could probably grab the black caiman and then at that amount of venom, you’re talking about a bucket of venom going into that black caiman.

“I don’t know, man. I never thought about it. I mean bullet ant has these giant, giant, giant mandibles that could probably grab the black caiman and then at that amount of venom, you’re talking about a bucket of venom going into that black caiman.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

05 / belief

If they have other options, they will probably choose to give their life to saving the community, to first and foremost providing for their family, and after that, saving the community, helping the community flourish. And I think probably a lot of them love the rainforest.

“If they have other options, they will probably choose to give their life to saving the community, to first and foremost providing for their family, and after that, saving the community, helping the community flourish. And I think probably a lot of them love the rainforest.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

06 / belief

There is definitely a thing in you, just me having observed you behave in the jungle and in the world, you’re pulled towards exploration, towards adventure, towards the possibility of discovering something beautiful, including a small little creature or a whole new part of the rainforest, a part of the world that is, holy shit, this is beautiful. I think that’s the same imperative.

“There is definitely a thing in you, just me having observed you behave in the jungle and in the world, you’re pulled towards exploration, towards adventure, towards the possibility of discovering something beautiful, including a small little creature or a whole new part of the rainforest, a part of the world that is, holy shit, this is beautiful. I think that’s the same imperative.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

07 / uncertainty

I don’t know, like the bottom of the caiman has a certain kind of texture and it just all feels like power, but also all feels like designed really well.

“I don’t know, like the bottom of the caiman has a certain kind of texture and it just all feels like power, but also all feels like designed really well.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

10 / belief

If you’re able to tune into that frequency, I feel like you and JJ are able to tune into the frequency of the jungle that is a provider, not a destroyer of human life. I think to be collaborated with, not fought against.

“If you’re able to tune into that frequency, I feel like you and JJ are able to tune into the frequency of the jungle that is a provider, not a destroyer of human life. I think to be collaborated with, not fought against.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

11 / belief

I think that because people live indoors in climate controlled boxes in cities far away from nature, they’ve completely lost track of everything that’s real.

“I think that because people live indoors in climate controlled boxes in cities far away from nature, they’ve completely lost track of everything that’s real.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

13 / belief

I think the brutality of nature is the chaos, and I think that we are the only ones in it that are capable of organizing in the direction of order and light.

“I think the brutality of nature is the chaos, and I think that we are the only ones in it that are capable of organizing in the direction of order and light.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

14 / belief

I think you’re saying pumas have a curiosity, have a way about them where they explore, follow people, just to kind of figure out… Just that curiosity as opposed to causing harm or hunting and that kind of stuff.

“I think you’re saying pumas have a curiosity, have a way about them where they explore, follow people, just to kind of figure out… Just that curiosity as opposed to causing harm or hunting and that kind of stuff.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

15 / belief

I think that there’s those higher… No one’s suggesting that sardines somehow need human rights or something, but I think that elephants need representation in governments because they influence their landscape, they engineer their environment.

“I think that there’s those higher… No one’s suggesting that sardines somehow need human rights or something, but I think that elephants need representation in governments because they influence their landscape, they engineer their environment.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

16 / belief

Mountain lions, pumas, whatever the… There’s all different names for them. They’re distributed from, I think from Alaska down through Argentina.

“Mountain lions, pumas, whatever the… There’s all different names for them. They’re distributed from, I think from Alaska down through Argentina.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

17 / belief

I think that ayahuasca is, I can only speak from personal experience, and for me it was as if your brain is a house you’ve lived in your entire life and it’s a big house, it’s a mansion, and there’s many, many rooms that you didn’t even know exist.

“I think that ayahuasca is, I can only speak from personal experience, and for me it was as if your brain is a house you’ve lived in your entire life and it’s a big house, it’s a mansion, and there’s many, many rooms that you didn’t even know exist.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

20 / belief

I think the cooling aspect of the water, because the body temperature is really high from traversing the really dense jungle, just the cooling was somehow grounding in a way that nothing else really is.

“I think the cooling aspect of the water, because the body temperature is really high from traversing the really dense jungle, just the cooling was somehow grounding in a way that nothing else really is.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

24 / uncertainty

We’re seeing snakes where they’re saying, “We saw this snake inside a crevice, on that tree, in the strangler fig, and we don’t know what it is.

“We’re seeing snakes where they’re saying, “We saw this snake inside a crevice, on that tree, in the strangler fig, and we don’t know what it is.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

27 / belief

You can write down a calculation on a napkin, you can cite different Hollywood movies, you can point up to the pieces of light in the stars, but if I talk about show me a single cell that’s not from this planet, it’s still not possible. And so I agree with you that the likelihood is there, all indications point to it.

“You can write down a calculation on a napkin, you can cite different Hollywood movies, you can point up to the pieces of light in the stars, but if I talk about show me a single cell that’s not from this planet, it’s still not possible. And so I agree with you that the likelihood is there, all indications point to it.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

28 / belief

Through technology and organization, there’s so many people, more people today than ever before, I think, who are so concerned, who realize that the incredible power, like what Jane Goodall says about how you can affect the people around you.

“Through technology and organization, there’s so many people, more people today than ever before, I think, who are so concerned, who realize that the incredible power, like what Jane Goodall says about how you can affect the people around you.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

29 / belief

I think that he was a weak, asthmatic, little rich kid that wasn’t physically able, that had no self-confidence, and he had pretty severe depression.

“I think that he was a weak, asthmatic, little rich kid that wasn’t physically able, that had no self-confidence, and he had pretty severe depression.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

30 / observation

The only way I can imagine finding physical aliens is if alien species, they’re trying to communicate with us humans or with other life forms, and are trying to figure out a way to communicate with us such that we dumb humans would understand.

“The only way I can imagine finding physical aliens is if alien species, they’re trying to communicate with us humans or with other life forms, and are trying to figure out a way to communicate with us such that we dumb humans would understand.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

34 / evaluation

The rivers are filled with trash and, yeah, extinction is happening, but we have to be an interplanetary species anyway, because at any moment this could all end from an asteroid and everything’s going to shit anyway, and so it’s like we’re fucking up this planet.

“The rivers are filled with trash and, yeah, extinction is happening, but we have to be an interplanetary species anyway, because at any moment this could all end from an asteroid and everything’s going to shit anyway, and so it’s like we’re fucking up this planet.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

35 / evaluation

I love that. And so the rainforests to me are the greatest celebration of life and probably the greatest challenge for us as a global society because if we can’t protect the crown jewel, the best thing, the most beautiful part, then we’re really, really missing the point.

“I love that. And so the rainforests to me are the greatest celebration of life and probably the greatest challenge for us as a global society because if we can’t protect the crown jewel, the best thing, the most beautiful part, then we’re really, really missing the point.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

36 / prediction

This is the testing ground for something bigger and this complexity and this diversity of life and this life that we have is that important. And I think that part of what we do when we go, “Oh, yeah, but there’s other planets where…” First of all, we’re taking an assumption into reality without… I mean aliens right now are about as real as Santa Claus.

“This is the testing ground for something bigger and this complexity and this diversity of life and this life that we have is that important. And I think that part of what we do when we go, “Oh, yeah, but there’s other planets where…” First of all, we’re taking an assumption into reality without… I mean aliens right now are about as real as Santa Claus.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

37 / evaluation

Now, just think about this, I think scientifically, because people like to summarize, people like to get really, really cavalier with our scientific progress, and they go, “We’ve already explored the Amazon.

“Now, just think about this, I think scientifically, because people like to summarize, people like to get really, really cavalier with our scientific progress, and they go, “We’ve already explored the Amazon.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

38 / evaluation

To be able to observe it over time, to learn its habits or to put a radio transmitter on it or to take any sort of valuable information from the experience is almost impossible. And so a lot of the stuff that I wrote about in Mother of God, us jumping on anacondas and trying to catch them, and at first it just seemed like something we were doing to just try and see them.

“To be able to observe it over time, to learn its habits or to put a radio transmitter on it or to take any sort of valuable information from the experience is almost impossible. And so a lot of the stuff that I wrote about in Mother of God, us jumping on anacondas and trying to catch them, and at first it just seemed like something we were doing to just try and see them.”
Speaker
Paul Rosolie
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

41 / evaluation

But still, the error bars are large in terms of what really happened. And that leaves room for things like Graham Hancock talks about lost civilizations, which I like also because you have a humility about, maybe there’s giant things we don’t know about or we got completely wrong.

“But still, the error bars are large in terms of what really happened. And that leaves room for things like Graham Hancock talks about lost civilizations, which I like also because you have a humility about, maybe there’s giant things we don’t know about or we got completely wrong.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

42 / evaluation

Is earth one big system and humans are just little fingertips of that system, or are each of the individual animals really the key actors and everything else is in the emerging complexity of the system? So I think thinking about aliens is a necessary… I like my town with a little drop of poison from Tom Waits is a necessary perturbation of the system, of our thinking, to sort of say, “Hey, we don’t know what the fuck is going on around here.

“Is earth one big system and humans are just little fingertips of that system, or are each of the individual animals really the key actors and everything else is in the emerging complexity of the system? So I think thinking about aliens is a necessary… I like my town with a little drop of poison from Tom Waits is a necessary perturbation of the system, of our thinking, to sort of say, “Hey, we don’t know what the fuck is going on around here.”
Speaker
Lex Fridman
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast
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