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01 / belief
“A lot of long books would make good short books, and a lot of short books would make good essays, I think.”
02 / uncertainty
“I don’t know if anything is inevitable in history, but it’s certainly safe to say that the conditions were in place to make it possible- … by the winter of 1860, ’61, and the conditions that made it possible were all related to the institution of slavery and its effects both in the states where slavery was allowed and the states where it was not allowed.”
03 / belief
“The one place where the US ends up with an advantage is that over the course of the war, it found, in my view, four men who could command armies effectively: Grant, Sherman, Philip Henry Sheridan, and George H.”
04 / belief
“I would say if you… I think if you guessed 3% were r- I mean, really abolitionists, destroy it now, destroy it completely, no compensation for rebel owners or any owners, kill it in Kentucky, kill it in Missouri, kill it in Maryland.”
05 / belief
“I think what he could have done, the most perceptive Confederate soldier who wrote about the war was a guy named Edward Porter Alexander who was the most gifted artillerist.”
06 / belief
“In my experience, you cannot replicate in a classroom what you can do at a historic site, I mean a really historic site.”
07 / belief
“” The “great forces are all that matters and individuals don’t really matter” notion of history, I think, is ridiculous.”
08 / observation
“The point is, alcohol never got in the way of anything Grant did during the war, and he had a superlative record of delivering victories when the United States needed them, and Lincoln figured that out.”
09 / belief
“I think he was a terrible president because he was extremely prejudiced. He had all kinds of grievances stacked up.”
10 / belief
“Of course he was. But I think that he, I think he would have handled that pretty well, and he would have been, still been really tall.”
11 / belief
“In my view, it’s neck and neck with Washington and Lincoln. Without Washington, there’s no United States, so it’s sort of hard to go against him.”
12 / observation
“Grant’s a perfect example of that, Lex, at Vicksburg, where his problem was to get his army on the same side of the river as the Confederates, where he could come against Vicksburg, and the only way to do it was have the Union Navy run past—and he said to do it.”
13 / belief
“I think you can draw a straight line between May the 3rd at Chancellorsville when his infantry fought their way together and July the 3rd at Gettysburg.”
14 / observation
“Probably not gonna be able to shut down a lot there. So the point is that there are factors that help both sides.”
15 / belief
“I think for someone who was born in Kentucky and reared in Southern Indiana and Southern Illinois, he was never around anything but a level of intensity on race that he probably didn’t ever see, wasn’t ever around white people who he could see accepting Black people as fully equal.”
16 / belief
“Reconcile, true reconciliation, that’s much, much, much tougher, and that didn’t come anytime soon on the part of millions of people on both sides, I think.”
17 / belief
“I don’t think the war was inevitable. But I think the conditions were present for it to happen, obviously.”
18 / belief
“We do resemble the 1850s now in that I think the first impulse on the part of people on either side of the political spectrum is to attribute the worst to the other side and to not acknowledge any good on the other side, to attribute the worst possible characteristics to the other side, and to have inflammatory rhetoric coming from various directions that really seeks to sort of stir up as much unhappiness and controversy as possible.”
19 / evaluation
“I think what we take away from that supports my argument that this is a war between two mid-19th century nation states that have a sense of how you fight a war.”
20 / evaluation
“One reason that rules of war were codified was because Henry Halleck, who was a Union general in Missouri, was dealing with this guerrilla activity and he said, “We need to get some rules about who’s a civilian, who’s not a civilian.”
21 / evaluation
“I think what you would expect is going… I mean, they would talk about Union occasionally, but what that means to them, it’s a union without slavery.”
22 / prediction
“There’s war-weariness, but the war goes on because I think if you had been able to poll most white Southerners even late in the war and say, “Okay, here are your choices.”
23 / evaluation
“I prefer to see this as a war between two mid-19th century republics, one of which didn’t last very long and spent its whole life in the midst of a great war.”
24 / evaluation
“Most of the white North, by our standards, was very prejudiced. They were against the expansion of slavery into the territories because they thought that would circumscribe white opportunities to make an economic life in these federal territories, and they didn’t want that to happen.”
25 / evaluation
“Another thing that I love to teach is that the most intrusive central government in American history, by far, until deep into the 20th century, was the Confederate central government, because it had to do things to keep the war going that it couldn’t have done unless the central government stepped in, such as passing the first national conscription law in American history.”
26 / evaluation
“I still think it’s a magnet for… I mean, we’re in an unbelie- we’re far more diverse now as a people than we were during the Civil War because we continue to act in the same way as it did in the Civil War, only they’re not Germans and Ir- people come from everywhere here now.”
27 / evaluation
“We think of it as state rights because as you lead up to the Civil War, you hear white Southerners talking about it all the time.”
28 / recommendation
“There are a lot of nice edges too that make you feel good, but there are a lot of really hard edges in the past, and if you’re gonna be serious about coming to terms with history, you need to accept that and deal with them and talk about them and not just try to erase them, I think.”