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Gary Gallagher: belief

28 Jul 2026 Lex Fridman Podcast #499 – Gary Gallagher: American Civil War, Slavery, Lincoln, Grant & Lee

“I would say if you… I think if you guessed 3% were r- I mean, really abolitionists, destroy it now, destroy it completely, no compensation for rebel owners or any owners, kill it in Kentucky, kill it in Missouri, kill it in Maryland.”

— Gary Gallagher

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Speaker
Gary Gallagher
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
28 Jul 2026
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…But we should say, and correct me if I’m wrong, that only a tiny minority of Americans were abolitionists at that time. We’ll never know exactly. I would say if you… I think if you guessed 3% were r- I mean, really abolitionists, destroy it now, destroy it completely, no compensation for rebel owners or any owners, kill it in Kentucky, kill it in Missouri, kill it in Maryland. Yes, I think 3% would be about the ballpark. So of course, now we venerate those folks, and we mythologize them, and so they become bigger in our minds. But it sh- we should remember that they’re a tiny percentage.…

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