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Gary Gallagher: belief

28 Jul 2026 Lex Fridman Podcast #499 – Gary Gallagher: American Civil War, Slavery, Lincoln, Grant & Lee

“I think for someone who was born in Kentucky and reared in Southern Indiana and Southern Illinois, he was never around anything but a level of intensity on race that he probably didn’t ever see, wasn’t ever around white people who he could see accepting Black people as fully equal.”

— Gary Gallagher

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Speaker
Gary Gallagher
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
28 Jul 2026
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Do, do we know he believed that, or is this a pragmatic politician understanding the lay of the land? I think for someone who was born in Kentucky and reared in Southern Indiana and Southern Illinois, he was never around anything but a level of intensity on race that he probably didn’t ever see, wasn’t ever around white people who he could see accepting Black people as fully equal. That’s- … I do believe that. And still, it is a country that where the words “All men are created equal” is on the page.…

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