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Cat Wu

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Slack

“Yeah, and I also love how easy they've made to customize it. And so we love making Slack bots and this kind of like hackability means that we're able to integrate with Slack the way that we want to.”

Lenny's Podcast · 23 Apr 2026

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Paper Menagerie

“I really like how Asia works. It's a story about economic development and what are the policies and governments that make long-lasting, successful economies. The other books that I'm really into are The Technology Trap. So this is actually about the past few technology revolutions, so the Industrial Revolution and the Computer Revolution, and how this has affected workers. The reason that I really like this is because I think there's a lot we can learn from history to make sure that this transition goes well. And maybe on like a fun note, I really like Paper Menagerie. It's just like a book of short stories about like coming of age and AI and just like self-discovery.”

Lenny's Podcast · 23 Apr 2026

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We think about this in terms of building blocks. So... For both Cloud Code and Co-Work, the core building block is making individual tasks successful.

“We think about this in terms of building blocks. So... For both Cloud Code and Co-Work, the core building block is making individual tasks successful.”
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Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

02 / belief

Just do things. I think there's a lot of value in first principles thinking. And if you know what you're optimizing for and you have strong first principles, then you can normally deduce what the right course of action is and be able to clearly articulate that to all the stakeholders.

“Just do things. I think there's a lot of value in first principles thinking. And if you know what you're optimizing for and you have strong first principles, then you can normally deduce what the right course of action is and be able to clearly articulate that to all the stakeholders.”
Speaker
Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / belief

All these tasks produce outputs that are non-code and co-work is best positioned for that. So the way that I split the products in my mind is if I'm building something where the output is code, I'll use cloud code or desktop or cloud code on mobile.

“All these tasks produce outputs that are non-code and co-work is best positioned for that. So the way that I split the products in my mind is if I'm building something where the output is code, I'll use cloud code or desktop or cloud code on mobile.”
Speaker
Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

08 / belief

I think we also tend to hire people who have been in the industry for a while and have experienced lots of ups and downs and have a good sense for what gives them energy and how to maintain their energy over time.

“I think we also tend to hire people who have been in the industry for a while and have experienced lots of ups and downs and have a good sense for what gives them energy and how to maintain their energy over time.”
Speaker
Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / belief

Oh, we actually do PRDs sometimes. So I think for features that are like particularly ambiguous, it does help to write out just a one pager on what the goals are, what the delightful use cases are, what the failure modes currently are that we need to fix.

“Oh, we actually do PRDs sometimes. So I think for features that are like particularly ambiguous, it does help to write out just a one pager on what the goals are, what the delightful use cases are, what the failure modes currently are that we need to fix.”
Speaker
Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / belief

I think the model doesn't always have a great sense of who all the stakeholders are, how they relate to each other, what their preferences are, what are the right venues to communicate with them, to keep them on board.

“I think the model doesn't always have a great sense of who all the stakeholders are, how they relate to each other, what their preferences are, what are the right venues to communicate with them, to keep them on board.”
Speaker
Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

12 / belief

I think the reason why an engineering background is particularly useful, at least for the next few months, is if you have an engineering background, you have a better sense for how hard something should be.

“I think the reason why an engineering background is particularly useful, at least for the next few months, is if you have an engineering background, you have a better sense for how hard something should be.”
Speaker
Cat Wu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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