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Cat Wu: belief

23 Apr 2026 Lenny's Podcast How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code)

“I think we also tend to hire people who have been in the industry for a while and have experienced lots of ups and downs and have a good sense for what gives them energy and how to maintain their energy over time.”

— Cat Wu

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Cat Wu
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belief
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23 Apr 2026
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Lenny's Podcast

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…What I'm imagining is there's that gif. I think it's maybe from Pirates of the Caribbean where it's this guy walking down a pair of stairs on a ship and the whole ship is just being demolished around him. And he's so chill, just strolling down the staircase as everything's falling apart. And that's interesting because everyone I've met from Anthropic is just so chill and just so optimistic. Yeah, I think that's a really interesting insight is just like having this calmness and optimism versus just like, oh my God, everything's crazy and going nuts. Yeah, I think if you don't have it, you'll get pretty burnt out. I think we also tend to hire people who have been in the industry for a while and have experienced lots of ups and downs and have a good sense for what gives them energy and how to maintain their energy over time. I think that's helped us a lot. So interesting. Something that I wanted to ask about it. So there's these roles blurring. Engineers are becoming PMs. Everyone's dogs or cats. Everyone's everyone. What do we lose in that world? Do we lose like career ladders and clear career paths? Do we lose design consistency, code quality? You know, there's probably some downsides. What are some things you find are just like, okay, that's something we're sacrificing for the greater good?…

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