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23 Apr 2026 Lenny's Podcast How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code)
“I think product taste is still a very rare skill to have and we'll pretty much hire anyone who we feel has demonstrated this strongly.”
— Cat Wu
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- 23 Apr 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…So speaking of growth, so Amal was just on the podcast. You have this really interesting insight that most people haven't been sharing. There's always the sense that we need fewer PMs in the future. What do we need PMs? Engineers can just ship His take is that because engineers are moving so fast, PMs and designers are squeezed. There's less time to stay on top of everything that is happening. There's a feature shipping every day. So his take is he needs more PMs because it's hard to keep up. What's your take there? Do you feel like there'll be an increase in hiring of PMs? What do you think is going on with the PM profession long-term? I think all of the roles are merging. PMs are doing some engineering work. Engineers are doing PM work. Designers are PMing and also landing code. You can either hire a lot more engineers who have great product taste or you can keep your engineering hiring the same and hire a lot more PMs to help guide some of their work. On our team, we're pretty focused on hiring engineers with great product taste. This way we can reduce the amount of overhead for shipping any product. Like there are many engineers on our team who are fully able to end-to-end go from see user feedback on Twitter through to like ship a product at the end of the week with almost no product involvement. And this I think is actually like the most efficient way to ship something. So I think like, Engineer and PM are kind of overlapping and you will get a lot of benefit from having more of either. I think product taste is still a very rare skill to have and we'll pretty much hire anyone who we feel has demonstrated this strongly. And your background was in engineering, right?…
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