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Open Operator, Serverless Browsers and the Future of Computer-Using Agents

28 Feb 2025 31 published claims 1 attributable person

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02 / evaluation

It's a framework for building web agents. And we think that agent loops are actually pretty close to the application layer because every application probably has different goals or different ways it wants to take steps.

“It's a framework for building web agents. And we think that agent loops are actually pretty close to the application layer because every application probably has different goals or different ways it wants to take steps.”
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03 / prediction

Unfortunately, I think AI is going to be able to do a lot of the tasks that we do online, which means that it will be able to go to websites, click buttons on our behalf and log in on our behalf too.

“Unfortunately, I think AI is going to be able to do a lot of the tasks that we do online, which means that it will be able to go to websites, click buttons on our behalf and log in on our behalf too.”
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04 / evaluation

Those are some of the worst systems to run because when it's a stateful distributed system, it means that you are bound by the connections to that thing.

“Those are some of the worst systems to run because when it's a stateful distributed system, it means that you are bound by the connections to that thing.”
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05 / preference

Yeah, seriously. And unfortunately, it's a great product, but I think if you're an infrastructure company, you actually have to have a deeper level of control over these primitives.

“Yeah, seriously. And unfortunately, it's a great product, but I think if you're an infrastructure company, you actually have to have a deeper level of control over these primitives.”
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06 / preference

There are some, right? And I think in the end, what I have seen as my time as a developer, and I look at all the favorite tools that I have, is that, like, for tools and primitives with sufficient levels of complexity, you need to have a solution that's really bespoke to that primitive, you know?

“There are some, right? And I think in the end, what I have seen as my time as a developer, and I look at all the favorite tools that I have, is that, like, for tools and primitives with sufficient levels of complexity, you need to have a solution that's really bespoke to that primitive, you know?”
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08 / uncertainty

I was just trying to play WoW as a kid and they made me play sports. So I don't know how it worked out the way it did, but it does all come back to like, as a solo founder, you need to be willing to like go out there and, you know, talk about your product, go talk to customers, go convince people to work for you, but then also have core principles of like how you want to build this company and like what product you want to build.

“I was just trying to play WoW as a kid and they made me play sports. So I don't know how it worked out the way it did, but it does all come back to like, as a solo founder, you need to be willing to like go out there and, you know, talk about your product, go talk to customers, go convince people to work for you, but then also have core principles of like how you want to build this company and like what product you want to build.”
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10 / belief

I think the team really has ownership of all, a lot of these day-to-day decisions that add up to make a cohesive product experience culturally, like we're fully in person.

“I think the team really has ownership of all, a lot of these day-to-day decisions that add up to make a cohesive product experience culturally, like we're fully in person.”
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13 / uncertainty

You know, StageHand is completely open source for that reason. And, yeah, like, I think if you're building really complex web scraping workflows, I don't know if StageHand is the tool for you.

“You know, StageHand is completely open source for that reason. And, yeah, like, I think if you're building really complex web scraping workflows, I don't know if StageHand is the tool for you.”
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19 / belief

Like, I think that if you're building a web scraping product, if you need to do occasional web scraping or you have to do web scraping that works every single time, you want to use browser automation.

“Like, I think that if you're building a web scraping product, if you need to do occasional web scraping or you have to do web scraping that works every single time, you want to use browser automation.”
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20 / uncertainty

I don't know if it's going to happen from an individual company, but actually authentication providers that have a, you know, hidden login as agent feature, which will then you put in your email, you'll get a push notification, say like, hey, your browser-based agent wants to log into your Airbnb.

“I don't know if it's going to happen from an individual company, but actually authentication providers that have a, you know, hidden login as agent feature, which will then you put in your email, you'll get a push notification, say like, hey, your browser-based agent wants to log into your Airbnb.”
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23 / recommendation

The only solution I know, which is to kind of keep a kind of warm pool of servers around, which is expensive, but maybe not so expensive because it's just CPUs.

“The only solution I know, which is to kind of keep a kind of warm pool of servers around, which is expensive, but maybe not so expensive because it's just CPUs.”
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24 / uncertainty

I think I'm just trying to make sure that I'm not making false predictions. Because, like, you can predict that things will be better generically, but how?

“I think I'm just trying to make sure that I'm not making false predictions. Because, like, you can predict that things will be better generically, but how?”
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26 / evaluation

Where he basically observed that the browser is turning the operating system into a poorly debugged set of device drivers, because most of the apps are moved from the OS to the browser.

“Where he basically observed that the browser is turning the operating system into a poorly debugged set of device drivers, because most of the apps are moved from the OS to the browser.”
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28 / prediction

There's always the question of the, are you a point solution or are you the sort of all in one? And I think the point solutions tend to win quickly, but then the only ones have a very tight cohesive experience.

“There's always the question of the, are you a point solution or are you the sort of all in one? And I think the point solutions tend to win quickly, but then the only ones have a very tight cohesive experience.”
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29 / commitment

This is one of those things where I forgot to mention in my intro that I'm an investor in Browserbase. And I remember that when you pitched to me, like a lot of the stuff that we have today, we like wasn't on the original conversation.

“This is one of those things where I forgot to mention in my intro that I'm an investor in Browserbase. And I remember that when you pitched to me, like a lot of the stuff that we have today, we like wasn't on the original conversation.”
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