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Grant Sanderson (@3blue1brown) — Past, present, & future of mathematics

12 Oct 2023 22 published claims 2 attributable people

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02 / uncertainty

For any individual is going to be based on where their life circumstances connect them into something either because he had an interest in Georgism for whatever reason. But if someone I don't know their dad runs a paper mill and they're connected to the family business in that way and realize they can plug themselves in a little bit more efficiently.

“For any individual is going to be based on where their life circumstances connect them into something either because he had an interest in Georgism for whatever reason. But if someone I don't know their dad runs a paper mill and they're connected to the family business in that way and realize they can plug themselves in a little bit more efficiently.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

03 / belief

I think you should ask people who know a lot about Go and Chess and I'd be curious to hear their opinions on it because I imagine what they would say is, if you're going to be as good at Go as AlphaGo is you’re also not doing tree search, at least exclusively.

“I think you should ask people who know a lot about Go and Chess and I'd be curious to hear their opinions on it because I imagine what they would say is, if you're going to be as good at Go as AlphaGo is you’re also not doing tree search, at least exclusively.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

04 / uncertainty

” I don't know how it would look when people get them to be getting golds at the IMO but I imagine it's something that looks a little bit like how AlphaGo is trained, where you have it play with itself a whole bunch.

“” I don't know how it would look when people get them to be getting golds at the IMO but I imagine it's something that looks a little bit like how AlphaGo is trained, where you have it play with itself a whole bunch.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

05 / observation

Tell me why I should be less amazed by it or maybe put it in a different context but the reason I would be very impressed is… With chess, obviously this is not all the chess programs are doing, but there's a level of research you can do to narrow down the possibilities. And more importantly, in the math example, it seems that with some of the examples you've listed on your channel, the ability to solve the problem is so dependent on coming up with the right abstraction to think about it, coming up with ways of thinking about it that are not evident in the problem itself or in any other problem in any other test, that seems different from just a chess game where you don't have to think about what is the largest structure of this chess game in the same way as you do with the IMO problem.

“Tell me why I should be less amazed by it or maybe put it in a different context but the reason I would be very impressed is… With chess, obviously this is not all the chess programs are doing, but there's a level of research you can do to narrow down the possibilities. And more importantly, in the math example, it seems that with some of the examples you've listed on your channel, the ability to solve the problem is so dependent on coming up with the right abstraction to think about it, coming up with ways of thinking about it that are not evident in the problem itself or in any other problem in any other test, that seems different from just a chess game where you don't have to think about what is the largest structure of this chess game in the same way as you do with the IMO problem.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

06 / belief

A good research problem that I think I think might be a good place for you to start in the next couple months” and this guy was like “Oh, okay” and he gets this research problem and he spends some months thinking about it and he comes back and then it later came to light that the professor mistook him for someone else that was someone he was supposed to be mentoring.

“A good research problem that I think I think might be a good place for you to start in the next couple months” and this guy was like “Oh, okay” and he gets this research problem and he spends some months thinking about it and he comes back and then it later came to light that the professor mistook him for someone else that was someone he was supposed to be mentoring.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

07 / belief

All of the other students in the class were very confused and I think I remember like they would come to me and I would try to offer to help them and the substitute was going around the class in these circles and basically marking off a little star for how far down the homework people were just to get a sense are they progressing.

“All of the other students in the class were very confused and I think I remember like they would come to me and I would try to offer to help them and the substitute was going around the class in these circles and basically marking off a little star for how far down the homework people were just to get a sense are they progressing.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

08 / belief

One of them, as I was emphasizing, I think you just lose touch with what it's like not to know stuff or what it's like to be a student and so maintaining that kind of connection so that I don't become duller and duller over time feels important.

“One of them, as I was emphasizing, I think you just lose touch with what it's like not to know stuff or what it's like to be a student and so maintaining that kind of connection so that I don't become duller and duller over time feels important.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

09 / belief

Even the ones who we think of as like very, very pure mathematicians in the sense that a lot of their most famous results are pure math like Gauss, actually a lot his output was also centered on very practical problems, Maybe since then is when you start to get an era of something more like pure mathematicians.

“Even the ones who we think of as like very, very pure mathematicians in the sense that a lot of their most famous results are pure math like Gauss, actually a lot his output was also centered on very practical problems, Maybe since then is when you start to get an era of something more like pure mathematicians.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

10 / belief

You have one coconut or nine coconuts like you have a sense of that. But if you ask what number is halfway between one and nine, those groups will answer three whereas you or I or people in our world would probably answer five and because we think on this very linear scale.

“You have one coconut or nine coconuts like you have a sense of that. But if you ask what number is halfway between one and nine, those groups will answer three whereas you or I or people in our world would probably answer five and because we think on this very linear scale.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

11 / belief

I think that's a great note to leave it on Grant. Thanks so much for coming on the podcast and genuinely, you're one of the people I really, really admire but what you've done for the landscape of Math education is really remarkable.

“I think that's a great note to leave it on Grant. Thanks so much for coming on the podcast and genuinely, you're one of the people I really, really admire but what you've done for the landscape of Math education is really remarkable.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

12 / belief

Then should we think of educators more as motivational speakers? As in the actual job of getting the content in your head is maybe for the textbooks or for Youtube but why we have college classes or high school classes is that we have somebody who approximates Tony Robbins to get you to do the thing.

“Then should we think of educators more as motivational speakers? As in the actual job of getting the content in your head is maybe for the textbooks or for Youtube but why we have college classes or high school classes is that we have somebody who approximates Tony Robbins to get you to do the thing.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

13 / prediction

I think we're maybe at a phase where there's room for that to become a much more fluid process such that rather than having these small little bits of friction like you've got to set up the environment, and you got to link it in the notebook, you've got to find the right libraries, that there's something that feels as fluid as when you are good at algebra and you're just at a whiteboard kind of noodling it out.

“I think we're maybe at a phase where there's room for that to become a much more fluid process such that rather than having these small little bits of friction like you've got to set up the environment, and you got to link it in the notebook, you've got to find the right libraries, that there's something that feels as fluid as when you are good at algebra and you're just at a whiteboard kind of noodling it out.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

14 / commitment

Basically I had been toying around with just a personal programming project in my last year of college that was the beginnings of what is now the animation tool I work with.

“Basically I had been toying around with just a personal programming project in my last year of college that was the beginnings of what is now the animation tool I work with.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

16 / evaluation

I don't know if this answers your question, but I would reemphasize that what's probably most important to getting people to actually learn something is not the explanation or the quality of explanations available because since the printing press that has not been true.

“I don't know if this answers your question, but I would reemphasize that what's probably most important to getting people to actually learn something is not the explanation or the quality of explanations available because since the printing press that has not been true.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

17 / preference

You want explanations to be online but the word education derives from the same root as the word educe, to bring out, and I really like that as a bit of etymology because it reminds you that the job of an educator is not to like take their knowledge and shove it into the heads of someone else the job is to bring it out.

“You want explanations to be online but the word education derives from the same root as the word educe, to bring out, and I really like that as a bit of etymology because it reminds you that the job of an educator is not to like take their knowledge and shove it into the heads of someone else the job is to bring it out.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

18 / preference

Whereas, if you do something that's almost unreasonably niche and also you're not expecting it to blow up it's like one you're not going to be disappointed, it's like outstanding when a thousand people view it as opposed to being disappointing and then two, you might be making something that is the best possible version of that content for the audience who watches it because no one else is making that for them because it's too narrow a target.

“Whereas, if you do something that's almost unreasonably niche and also you're not expecting it to blow up it's like one you're not going to be disappointed, it's like outstanding when a thousand people view it as opposed to being disappointing and then two, you might be making something that is the best possible version of that content for the audience who watches it because no one else is making that for them because it's too narrow a target.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

19 / evaluation

If I try to reflect on my own history with what I'm doing now I think I didn't appreciate early on how much potential energy I had simply from being a student in college where there's just a bunch of ways of thinking about things, or empathy with new learners, or just cool concepts right?

“If I try to reflect on my own history with what I'm doing now I think I didn't appreciate early on how much potential energy I had simply from being a student in college where there's just a bunch of ways of thinking about things, or empathy with new learners, or just cool concepts right?”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

20 / observation

Your watching both of those gives a little link between them, or maybe you and a ton of other people watching both of them gives a little link between such that once I watch video A, B is potentially nominated in that phase because it's recognized that there's a lot of co-watching.

“Your watching both of those gives a little link between them, or maybe you and a ton of other people watching both of them gives a little link between such that once I watch video A, B is potentially nominated in that phase because it's recognized that there's a lot of co-watching.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

21 / evaluation

In so far as it doesn't have more of an impact or more of a reach it's maybe just because people don't know about it or don't have an easy means of accessing something that recommends to them like the really good innovations happening in the world of textual explanations in the way that youtube has this recommending engine that tries its hardest to get more of these things in front of people.

“In so far as it doesn't have more of an impact or more of a reach it's maybe just because people don't know about it or don't have an easy means of accessing something that recommends to them like the really good innovations happening in the world of textual explanations in the way that youtube has this recommending engine that tries its hardest to get more of these things in front of people.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

22 / evaluation

I'm pretty sure the abstract idea of a number is important for all of us but I don't think it's immediately obvious. It's more that it shapes the way we think, I'm not sure if it actually changes the way we live.

“I'm pretty sure the abstract idea of a number is important for all of us but I don't think it's immediately obvious. It's more that it shapes the way we think, I'm not sure if it actually changes the way we live.”
Speaker
Grant Sanderson
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast
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