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John Amaechi on Leadership, the NBA, and Being Gay in Professional Sports

1 Oct 2025 20 published claims 2 attributable people
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Tyler CowenJohn Amaechi

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evaluation 7belief 6commitment 2uncertainty 2preference 2prediction 1

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02 / commitment

I witnessed, and I will say this, not at Penn State, not to be protective of Penn State, I’ve been vocally critical of Penn State over the years, but not at Penn State, but other places where I got to know players, it was very clear that no responsibility was being taken for them as people outside of their athletics.

“I witnessed, and I will say this, not at Penn State, not to be protective of Penn State, I’ve been vocally critical of Penn State over the years, but not at Penn State, but other places where I got to know players, it was very clear that no responsibility was being taken for them as people outside of their athletics.”
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John Amaechi
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03 / commitment

I will say that they all seem to have come from, like I’m thinking in my head of somebody who used to work in the NHS, so they used to be an actual doctor, and somebody else who used to be a physics teacher in university.

“I will say that they all seem to have come from, like I’m thinking in my head of somebody who used to work in the NHS, so they used to be an actual doctor, and somebody else who used to be a physics teacher in university.”
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John Amaechi
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05 / uncertainty

Whereas if you’re an extrovert, you just like to talk, and so you might just say anything. I don’t know, I haven’t seen the evidence behind that, but it appeals to me.

“Whereas if you’re an extrovert, you just like to talk, and so you might just say anything. I don’t know, I haven’t seen the evidence behind that, but it appeals to me.”
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John Amaechi
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07 / belief

I’m interested in people understanding. And I think many psychologists, especially those who make them their names in academia, they want to write in a way that makes what they know seem completely inaccessible, if not magic.

“I’m interested in people understanding. And I think many psychologists, especially those who make them their names in academia, they want to write in a way that makes what they know seem completely inaccessible, if not magic.”
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John Amaechi
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11 / evaluation

We were often punished for our performance if it was not optimal. And because John and Karl were older in the context of athletes, Jerry would punish us to run endless sprints.

“We were often punished for our performance if it was not optimal. And because John and Karl were older in the context of athletes, Jerry would punish us to run endless sprints.”
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John Amaechi
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12 / evaluation

Now, as you know, you once had a six-year $17 million offer from the Los Angeles Lakers and you turned it down to stay with the Orlando Magic for what I think was $600,000 for one year and not a guarantee.

“Now, as you know, you once had a six-year $17 million offer from the Los Angeles Lakers and you turned it down to stay with the Orlando Magic for what I think was $600,000 for one year and not a guarantee.”
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Tyler Cowen
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13 / evaluation

I work with a group of chairs, of FTSE companies in the United Kingdom, and there are a couple of them who are notably remarkably interested in learning leadership.

“I work with a group of chairs, of FTSE companies in the United Kingdom, and there are a couple of them who are notably remarkably interested in learning leadership.”
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John Amaechi
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14 / evaluation

But I also would’ve had four championships without lifting a finger, which would’ve been great, right? But I think the reality is that, again, if it’s about principle, I had a principled idea in my head that I should stay, and I knew that it would not necessarily be reciprocated.

“But I also would’ve had four championships without lifting a finger, which would’ve been great, right? But I think the reality is that, again, if it’s about principle, I had a principled idea in my head that I should stay, and I knew that it would not necessarily be reciprocated.”
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John Amaechi
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15 / evaluation

I know that there are some and they are better players than I who talk about how the games changed and it’s no good anymore because people just shoot threes and whatever else.

“I know that there are some and they are better players than I who talk about how the games changed and it’s no good anymore because people just shoot threes and whatever else.”
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John Amaechi
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16 / evaluation

I would say to anybody who wants to model themselves after Steve Jobs, be that brilliant and that compelling, and that insightful and that prescient, and you can get away with it. But I would also say anyone whose idea of being a great leader is that their superpower is somehow intrinsically linked with their ability to be an asshole, has misunderstood the human condition, because nobody performs at their best when they’re frightened, nobody.

“I would say to anybody who wants to model themselves after Steve Jobs, be that brilliant and that compelling, and that insightful and that prescient, and you can get away with it. But I would also say anyone whose idea of being a great leader is that their superpower is somehow intrinsically linked with their ability to be an asshole, has misunderstood the human condition, because nobody performs at their best when they’re frightened, nobody.”
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John Amaechi
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17 / preference

I think there’s a selflessness part of being a leader that’s important if you want to be sustainably high performing, but I’m not sure that I’ve ever used the man for others terminology myself.

“I think there’s a selflessness part of being a leader that’s important if you want to be sustainably high performing, but I’m not sure that I’ve ever used the man for others terminology myself.”
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John Amaechi
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18 / prediction

They aren’t going to pay the vast majority of their players over a million dollars a year, and they aren’t going to have a player, even one of the caliber anywhere near of a Michael Jordan. So we can take the example that is as rare as, I don’t know, Adamantium and have it be the thing we go by, or we can say that most companies have extraordinarily average people within it, and so they don’t get to play by the same rules.

“They aren’t going to pay the vast majority of their players over a million dollars a year, and they aren’t going to have a player, even one of the caliber anywhere near of a Michael Jordan. So we can take the example that is as rare as, I don’t know, Adamantium and have it be the thing we go by, or we can say that most companies have extraordinarily average people within it, and so they don’t get to play by the same rules.”
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John Amaechi
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19 / preference

I still have this experience today, and it’s part of the reason I don’t leave my house very much unless I have to for work, and it’s that wherever I go, the first look I get from people is usually one of terror and of fear because I’m 6’ 9”, 150 kilo — that’s very large in American pounds — Black person.

“I still have this experience today, and it’s part of the reason I don’t leave my house very much unless I have to for work, and it’s that wherever I go, the first look I get from people is usually one of terror and of fear because I’m 6’ 9”, 150 kilo — that’s very large in American pounds — Black person.”
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John Amaechi
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20 / evaluation

Because if you aren’t part of the aristocracy now, you go back a couple of generations and you are working for somebody in the most abhorrent conditions imaginable.

“Because if you aren’t part of the aristocracy now, you go back a couple of generations and you are working for somebody in the most abhorrent conditions imaginable.”
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John Amaechi
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