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Peter Thiel on Stagnation, Innovation, and What Not to Call your Company (Live at Mason)

25 Mar 2015 31 published claims 2 attributable people

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belief 19evaluation 5prediction 4uncertainty 2preference 1

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31 published records

01 / belief

I suspect we’re not innovating as much in those dimensions, either, but I think that one, you’d just end up projecting your own biases onto society.

“I suspect we’re not innovating as much in those dimensions, either, but I think that one, you’d just end up projecting your own biases onto society.”
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Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

02 / belief

The truth that I know to be the case is that the future of human evolution and how we think about how we structure society lies in privately funded, managed, for-profit cities built in partnership with, but independent from, governments today in the world.

“The truth that I know to be the case is that the future of human evolution and how we think about how we structure society lies in privately funded, managed, for-profit cities built in partnership with, but independent from, governments today in the world.”
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05 / belief

I think most nonprofits fail at this, where they end up supporting things that are super conventional, they can get funding for them, but if they didn’t do it, there’d be 100 other people doing it.

“I think most nonprofits fail at this, where they end up supporting things that are super conventional, they can get funding for them, but if they didn’t do it, there’d be 100 other people doing it.”
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Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

06 / belief

I think we’ve had this sort of Gresham’s law, where the bad scientists have driven out the good, or people who are nimble in the art of writing government grant applications have replaced the eccentric scientists who’ve really pushed the research.

“I think we’ve had this sort of Gresham’s law, where the bad scientists have driven out the good, or people who are nimble in the art of writing government grant applications have replaced the eccentric scientists who’ve really pushed the research.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

07 / belief

We accept that we’re all going to die, and so we don’t do anything, and we think we’re not going to die anytime soon, so we don’t really need to worry about it.

“We accept that we’re all going to die, and so we don’t do anything, and we think we’re not going to die anytime soon, so we don’t really need to worry about it.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

09 / belief

I think the nonlibertarian perspective that I think we always should think about a little bit harder is that there’s also also been a tremendous decline.

“I think the nonlibertarian perspective that I think we always should think about a little bit harder is that there’s also also been a tremendous decline.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

10 / belief

In Silicon Valley, San Francisco, where I live, I would say the single biggest variable that makes people feel the stagnation is the sense in which housing costs, rental costs, are through the roof.

“In Silicon Valley, San Francisco, where I live, I would say the single biggest variable that makes people feel the stagnation is the sense in which housing costs, rental costs, are through the roof.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

13 / belief

Then I think there is another modality where you just become aware of how conventional our conventions really are, and then that becomes sort of an indirect route of trying to start thinking for yourself.

“Then I think there is another modality where you just become aware of how conventional our conventions really are, and then that becomes sort of an indirect route of trying to start thinking for yourself.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

15 / belief

I’d much prefer to focus on the level of atoms, the real economy, than on the virtual level of bits, which I think of money as being linked to.

“I’d much prefer to focus on the level of atoms, the real economy, than on the virtual level of bits, which I think of money as being linked to.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

17 / belief

I think a lot of these smaller countries are somewhat underrated generally because you have an adaptability, an ability to change things that can move a lot faster.

“I think a lot of these smaller countries are somewhat underrated generally because you have an adaptability, an ability to change things that can move a lot faster.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

18 / evaluation

The optimism about Brazil, was always from all the potential that will happen, when it became linked to globalization, and then the disappointment happens when it turns out it doesn’t work.

“The optimism about Brazil, was always from all the potential that will happen, when it became linked to globalization, and then the disappointment happens when it turns out it doesn’t work.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

19 / belief

I think often the smarter people are more prone to trendy, fashionable thinking because they can pick up on things, they can pick up on cues more easily, and so they’re even more trapped by it than people of average ability.

“I think often the smarter people are more prone to trendy, fashionable thinking because they can pick up on things, they can pick up on cues more easily, and so they’re even more trapped by it than people of average ability.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

22 / prediction

I worry that the conformity problem is actually more acute than it was in the ’50s or ’60s, so that the category of the eccentric scientist, or even the eccentric professor, is a species that is steadily going extinct because there is less space for that in our research universities than there used to be.

“I worry that the conformity problem is actually more acute than it was in the ’50s or ’60s, so that the category of the eccentric scientist, or even the eccentric professor, is a species that is steadily going extinct because there is less space for that in our research universities than there used to be.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

23 / prediction

I think with the benefit of hindsight, we will realize that 2007 was not just the peak year of the finance boom, but also the peak year of globalization, like maybe 1913.

“I think with the benefit of hindsight, we will realize that 2007 was not just the peak year of the finance boom, but also the peak year of globalization, like maybe 1913.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

24 / prediction

I gave you these halfway, in-between ideas that are a little bit edgier. But I will also go a little bit out on a limb: I think the monopoly idea, that the goal of every successful business is to have a monopoly, that’s on the border of what I want to say.

“I gave you these halfway, in-between ideas that are a little bit edgier. But I will also go a little bit out on a limb: I think the monopoly idea, that the goal of every successful business is to have a monopoly, that’s on the border of what I want to say.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

25 / evaluation

” I am actually quite skeptical of that as a term, so yes, I think I did say the Straussian reading of Zero to One, was that perhaps — I had the adverb in — but perhaps you should not be an entrepreneur. It was because on one level, the book is advice about how you would go about building a business, but then on some level, you could also read every single chapter as discouraging people from going into business potentially as well.

“” I am actually quite skeptical of that as a term, so yes, I think I did say the Straussian reading of Zero to One, was that perhaps — I had the adverb in — but perhaps you should not be an entrepreneur. It was because on one level, the book is advice about how you would go about building a business, but then on some level, you could also read every single chapter as discouraging people from going into business potentially as well.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

26 / preference

I like to get things where you get these combinations of unusual traits, so if you have people with some really interesting, very different ideas, that suggests we’re in the idiosyncratic category.

“I like to get things where you get these combinations of unusual traits, so if you have people with some really interesting, very different ideas, that suggests we’re in the idiosyncratic category.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

27 / evaluation

In your view, perhaps the contemporary world is becoming, I don’t know what the word would be, stranger, or weirder, or more shaped by individuals who are different, precisely because conformity is being piled on other places.

“In your view, perhaps the contemporary world is becoming, I don’t know what the word would be, stranger, or weirder, or more shaped by individuals who are different, precisely because conformity is being piled on other places.”
Speaker
Tyler Cowen
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

29 / evaluation

My updated version on it would be that — I made the case that I thought democracy and capitalism weren’t quite compatible — the updated version I would give is it’s not at all clear that we’re living in anything resembling a democracy.

“My updated version on it would be that — I made the case that I thought democracy and capitalism weren’t quite compatible — the updated version I would give is it’s not at all clear that we’re living in anything resembling a democracy.”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

30 / evaluation

We need to ask, what is it about our society where those of us who do not suffer from Asperger’s are at some massive disadvantage because we will be talked out of our interesting, original, creative ideas before they are even fully formed?

“We need to ask, what is it about our society where those of us who do not suffer from Asperger’s are at some massive disadvantage because we will be talked out of our interesting, original, creative ideas before they are even fully formed?”
Speaker
Peter Thiel
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler
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