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David Deutsch on Multiple Worlds and Our Place in Them

2 Jun 2021 21 published claims 2 attributable people

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belief 7evaluation 7uncertainty 2disagreement 2prediction 2preference 1

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03 / disagreement

OK, well, that’s a mixture of the anthropic principle, which I disagree with, and the idea that some features of reality are inherently incomprehensible, which I also disagree with.

“OK, well, that’s a mixture of the anthropic principle, which I disagree with, and the idea that some features of reality are inherently incomprehensible, which I also disagree with.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

06 / belief

I think there is no fundamental difference between humans and artificial general intelligence when we invent it, humans many centuries ago, between men and women, between adults and children.

“I think there is no fundamental difference between humans and artificial general intelligence when we invent it, humans many centuries ago, between men and women, between adults and children.”
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David Deutsch
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07 / prediction

” Now, when you’re taught like that and intimidated by those kinds of things coming from on high, some proportion of you (of young people) will quit, some will take that on board and do the same to their students in turn, and some will think, “No, that’s ridiculous.

“” Now, when you’re taught like that and intimidated by those kinds of things coming from on high, some proportion of you (of young people) will quit, some will take that on board and do the same to their students in turn, and some will think, “No, that’s ridiculous.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

09 / belief

I think, for a start, there have been sophisticated theories of freedom, not just freedom in the sense that we can do this and we can do that, but theories about what freedom should constitute.

“I think, for a start, there have been sophisticated theories of freedom, not just freedom in the sense that we can do this and we can do that, but theories about what freedom should constitute.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

10 / uncertainty

Of course, we don’t know for sure what they are, but our best theories — in particular, quantum theory — say that there are other such entities and how they affect ours and how matter behaves as a result of that.

“Of course, we don’t know for sure what they are, but our best theories — in particular, quantum theory — say that there are other such entities and how they affect ours and how matter behaves as a result of that.”
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David Deutsch
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11 / belief

I think in philosophy, especially the human philosophy, as opposed to philosophy of science, I think all I’ve done is just add some footnotes to Popper and to a few other people, J.

“I think in philosophy, especially the human philosophy, as opposed to philosophy of science, I think all I’ve done is just add some footnotes to Popper and to a few other people, J.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

13 / disagreement

I don’t think it’s a good argument that political parties know more, because in a coalition, the energy of political negotiations or political arguments — what politicians talk to each other about in the bar, in the corridor, in between the sessions — is all about form.

“I don’t think it’s a good argument that political parties know more, because in a coalition, the energy of political negotiations or political arguments — what politicians talk to each other about in the bar, in the corridor, in between the sessions — is all about form.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

14 / evaluation

I think Gödel’s theorem, for example, with its roots in self-reference paradoxes, shows us that even within pure mathematics, there is no such thing as a solid foundation for all our knowledge.

“I think Gödel’s theorem, for example, with its roots in self-reference paradoxes, shows us that even within pure mathematics, there is no such thing as a solid foundation for all our knowledge.”
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David Deutsch
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15 / evaluation

I think that is the most error-correcting possible electoral system, although I must add that the electoral system is only a tiny facet of the institutions of criticism and consent.

“I think that is the most error-correcting possible electoral system, although I must add that the electoral system is only a tiny facet of the institutions of criticism and consent.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

16 / evaluation

He developed his theory of propensities because he thought that the problem was, What can a probability possibly mean in a universe that develops deterministically, and so on?

“He developed his theory of propensities because he thought that the problem was, What can a probability possibly mean in a universe that develops deterministically, and so on?”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

17 / prediction

I think what happened is that the capacity of the brain to store memes, to store programs in the brain rather than in the genes, increased, for some reason, very fast because, for some reason, these memes are very valuable.

“I think what happened is that the capacity of the brain to store memes, to store programs in the brain rather than in the genes, increased, for some reason, very fast because, for some reason, these memes are very valuable.”
Speaker
David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

18 / preference

My starting point was The Open Society & Its Enemies, volume 2, which is about Marx, which is probably the aspect of his philosophy that I was and am least interested in — and yet I was totally captivated by this book because previously the only philosophy I’d read was Bertrand Russell.

“My starting point was The Open Society & Its Enemies, volume 2, which is about Marx, which is probably the aspect of his philosophy that I was and am least interested in — and yet I was totally captivated by this book because previously the only philosophy I’d read was Bertrand Russell.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

19 / evaluation

It’s funny you should say — I think that he’s very good, much too good, at steel-manning opponents. This relates to your first criticism that he’s too obsessed with refuting not just Marxism, but every bad philosophical theory that has gone before: I think he puts it into its best possible form and then spends pages and pages and pages going into every possible good aspect of that theory.

“It’s funny you should say — I think that he’s very good, much too good, at steel-manning opponents. This relates to your first criticism that he’s too obsessed with refuting not just Marxism, but every bad philosophical theory that has gone before: I think he puts it into its best possible form and then spends pages and pages and pages going into every possible good aspect of that theory.”
Speaker
David Deutsch
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

20 / evaluation

It takes absolutely ages, months and months, for a gorilla to be able to copy another gorilla’s behavior well enough to do something complicated. They can copy “wave hand” and that sort of thing, but to copy a complex behavior like required to open a difficult kind of nut which no other animal can open (this is why they have memes, because that’s a very useful ability), it takes them a long time.

“It takes absolutely ages, months and months, for a gorilla to be able to copy another gorilla’s behavior well enough to do something complicated. They can copy “wave hand” and that sort of thing, but to copy a complex behavior like required to open a difficult kind of nut which no other animal can open (this is why they have memes, because that’s a very useful ability), it takes them a long time.”
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David Deutsch
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Conversations with Tyler

21 / evaluation

It complicates the discussion of probability, but there’s no overlap between that notion of infinity and the Everettian notion of infinity, if we are infinite there, because the differentiation (as I prefer to call what used to be called splitting) — when I perform an experiment which can go one of two ways, the influence of that spreads out.

“It complicates the discussion of probability, but there’s no overlap between that notion of infinity and the Everettian notion of infinity, if we are infinite there, because the differentiation (as I prefer to call what used to be called splitting) — when I perform an experiment which can go one of two ways, the influence of that spreads out.”
Speaker
David Deutsch
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler
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