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Cass Sunstein on Liberalism and Rights in the Age of AI

26 Nov 2025 27 published claims 2 attributable people

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27 published records

03 / belief

I think there’s something illiberal in the human heart. I recently reread Orwell’s 1984, and what staggered me about it is that Orwell’s of two minds, and that’s the power of the book.

“I think there’s something illiberal in the human heart. I recently reread Orwell’s 1984, and what staggered me about it is that Orwell’s of two minds, and that’s the power of the book.”
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Cass Sunstein
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04 / belief

One thing I learned being on a jury — I learned close up, of course; this is part of the common wisdom about juries — is that juries bring to bear some assessments that are accuracy-independent moral views.

“One thing I learned being on a jury — I learned close up, of course; this is part of the common wisdom about juries — is that juries bring to bear some assessments that are accuracy-independent moral views.”
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Cass Sunstein
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06 / belief

If I think about how immigration restrictions are enforced, I sometimes worry that liberal societies ultimately, at some margin, have to use illiberal means to keep out or deport immigrants.

“If I think about how immigration restrictions are enforced, I sometimes worry that liberal societies ultimately, at some margin, have to use illiberal means to keep out or deport immigrants.”
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Tyler Cowen
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08 / belief

There are ones that I think you were particularly interested in getting skilled people in who are completely amazing and can make our country more prosperous and ultimately lots more well-being — let them in.

“There are ones that I think you were particularly interested in getting skilled people in who are completely amazing and can make our country more prosperous and ultimately lots more well-being — let them in.”
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Cass Sunstein
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10 / belief

I think if it’s challenging for you and me to come to a long list of philosophers rather than economists, it might be just that their early career and what they’re going to look like when they’re mid-career is obscure.

“I think if it’s challenging for you and me to come to a long list of philosophers rather than economists, it might be just that their early career and what they’re going to look like when they’re mid-career is obscure.”
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Cass Sunstein
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15 / belief

I think the principal thing I learned is how he took standard songs that were classics and twisted them in directions that made them new, not only by doing things to the music, but also by taking words that had a certain meaning back then and giving them a different kind of meaning.

“I think the principal thing I learned is how he took standard songs that were classics and twisted them in directions that made them new, not only by doing things to the music, but also by taking words that had a certain meaning back then and giving them a different kind of meaning.”
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Cass Sunstein
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16 / belief

Dick York was better, but I saw recently an interview with Elizabeth Montgomery, I think — either she or someone who’s involved in the show — who said Dick York liked her a little more than was comfortable.

“Dick York was better, but I saw recently an interview with Elizabeth Montgomery, I think — either she or someone who’s involved in the show — who said Dick York liked her a little more than was comfortable.”
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Cass Sunstein
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21 / evaluation

One thing — I think I haven’t gotten this clear enough in my own mind — but one thing the woke left, let’s say, has gone wrong with — both in terms of strategy, but also in terms of how to be in the world — is a kind of arrogant — the word “shaming” is right — shaming of people who are deserving respect.

“One thing — I think I haven’t gotten this clear enough in my own mind — but one thing the woke left, let’s say, has gone wrong with — both in terms of strategy, but also in terms of how to be in the world — is a kind of arrogant — the word “shaming” is right — shaming of people who are deserving respect.”
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Cass Sunstein
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23 / evaluation

Parfit — some of the anti-individualist and anti-identity and self stuff, the stuff that looks illiberal and also looks brilliant but peculiar — I think he’s replicating the early research agenda of Kahneman and Tversky, coming up with very exotic cases and then asking himself what he and others think about them and then giving those things authority.

“Parfit — some of the anti-individualist and anti-identity and self stuff, the stuff that looks illiberal and also looks brilliant but peculiar — I think he’s replicating the early research agenda of Kahneman and Tversky, coming up with very exotic cases and then asking himself what he and others think about them and then giving those things authority.”
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Cass Sunstein
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Conversations with Tyler

24 / evaluation

Instead, he basically reported, after obsessive work — I think two years of work — on the correspondence between Mill and Taylor, and the correspondence is one of the closest things we have to the fictional correspondence in my favorite book, which is Byatt’s Possession, where the letters are ones of surpassing beauty.

“Instead, he basically reported, after obsessive work — I think two years of work — on the correspondence between Mill and Taylor, and the correspondence is one of the closest things we have to the fictional correspondence in my favorite book, which is Byatt’s Possession, where the letters are ones of surpassing beauty.”
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Cass Sunstein
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25 / evaluation

I think the liberal view is — this is something that some liberal thinkers, including Martha Nussbaum, have written about — there’s tragedy, and to recognize that tragedy is inevitable is a way of keeping an incentive to reduce the number and ferocity.

“I think the liberal view is — this is something that some liberal thinkers, including Martha Nussbaum, have written about — there’s tragedy, and to recognize that tragedy is inevitable is a way of keeping an incentive to reduce the number and ferocity.”
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Cass Sunstein
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26 / preference

Sendhil Mullainathan, who is one of my favorite current thinkers — he’s not philosophically focused, but he’s just writing a paper now on behavioral economics, where agency is moving to the fore.

“Sendhil Mullainathan, who is one of my favorite current thinkers — he’s not philosophically focused, but he’s just writing a paper now on behavioral economics, where agency is moving to the fore.”
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Cass Sunstein
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27 / prediction

Some liberals are very open to immigration. That tends to be the liberal tendency, but some people who believe in freedom and in the rule of law and in pluralism worry that excessive immigration can start undermining those things, partly because it might make pluralism not self-sustaining.

“Some liberals are very open to immigration. That tends to be the liberal tendency, but some people who believe in freedom and in the rule of law and in pluralism worry that excessive immigration can start undermining those things, partly because it might make pluralism not self-sustaining.”
Speaker
Cass Sunstein
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