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Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin became the most powerful dictator in history

10 Jul 2025 12 published claims 2 attributable people

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evaluation 6commitment 2belief 1uncertainty 1recommendation 1observation 1

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01 / belief

I agree with the mechanism by which the growth happened, but I don't think it's the case that it was their inability to have true Marxist communism which led to liberalization.

“I agree with the mechanism by which the growth happened, but I don't think it's the case that it was their inability to have true Marxist communism which led to liberalization.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

02 / uncertainty

Is Xi Jinping a true believer? That's a difficult argument to win because the evidence is contradictory and because we don't know the inside of the system.

“Is Xi Jinping a true believer? That's a difficult argument to win because the evidence is contradictory and because we don't know the inside of the system.”
Speaker
Stephen Kotkin
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

03 / evaluation

Because those people who were killing under communism and collectivizing those villages and dekulakizing and killing the people in their native village that they had grown up with… If they hadn't done that, the regime couldn't have done this.

“Because those people who were killing under communism and collectivizing those villages and dekulakizing and killing the people in their native village that they had grown up with… If they hadn't done that, the regime couldn't have done this.”
Speaker
Stephen Kotkin
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

05 / evaluation

It needs to be able to compete in the international system. That means it needs a modern military and modern industry to underwrite that modern military.

“It needs to be able to compete in the international system. That means it needs a modern military and modern industry to underwrite that modern military.”
Speaker
Stephen Kotkin
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

06 / evaluation

The only reason China has Hong Kong is because after World War II—when Truman announced that Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalists were going to accept the Japanese surrender in Hong Kong—the British sent their boats in and took Hong Kong back themselves, so that when Mao defeated Chiang Kai-shek he didn't have Hong Kong.

“The only reason China has Hong Kong is because after World War II—when Truman announced that Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalists were going to accept the Japanese surrender in Hong Kong—the British sent their boats in and took Hong Kong back themselves, so that when Mao defeated Chiang Kai-shek he didn't have Hong Kong.”
Speaker
Stephen Kotkin
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

09 / commitment

I agree with your general point that how any nation gets wealthy is not by the government but because of the thrift and entrepreneurialism and hard work of individuals.

“I agree with your general point that how any nation gets wealthy is not by the government but because of the thrift and entrepreneurialism and hard work of individuals.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

11 / observation

In many of these cases, there's this period in between when they're a dead man walking—because Stalin has started putting the feelers out that this person is a Trotskyite or something—but they're still in their positions of power.

“In many of these cases, there's this period in between when they're a dead man walking—because Stalin has started putting the feelers out that this person is a Trotskyite or something—but they're still in their positions of power.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast
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