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Outlasting Noam Shazeer, crowdsourcing Chai AI with >1.4m DAU, and becoming the "Western DeepSeek" — with William Beauchamp, Chai Research

26 Jan 2025 19 published claims 3 attributable people

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belief 6evaluation 6preference 4uncertainty 2commitment 1

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19 published records

01 / belief

I think there's a lot of inference insights that we can get from that, as well as human psychology insights, kind of a weird blend of the two.

“I think there's a lot of inference insights that we can get from that, as well as human psychology insights, kind of a weird blend of the two.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
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02 / belief

Yep, so I was simultaneously running an algorithmic trading company, but I fortunately was able to kind of exit from that, I think just in Q3 last year.

“Yep, so I was simultaneously running an algorithmic trading company, but I fortunately was able to kind of exit from that, I think just in Q3 last year.”
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03 / belief

I think one problem I have, and this is a broader products question maybe, is that the ELOs apply to the whole user population.

“I think one problem I have, and this is a broader products question maybe, is that the ELOs apply to the whole user population.”
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Shawn Wang
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06 / belief

Before we go into the inference, some of the deeper stuff, can you give people an overview of like some of the numbers? So I think last I checked, you have like 1.

“Before we go into the inference, some of the deeper stuff, can you give people an overview of like some of the numbers? So I think last I checked, you have like 1.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
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07 / uncertainty

Oh, okay. Yeah, that one I don't know. I'm curious, like, you know, it's kind of like similar content, but different platform.

“Oh, okay. Yeah, that one I don't know. I'm curious, like, you know, it's kind of like similar content, but different platform.”
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Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
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10 / commitment

And so I just kept creating bots. And so every single night after work, I'd be like, okay, I like, we have AI, we have this platform.

“And so I just kept creating bots. And so every single night after work, I'd be like, okay, I like, we have AI, we have this platform.”
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11 / preference

I think Elo is a fantastic north star and the reason for it, or like it's the main one we want to see go up because it's this human feedback.

“I think Elo is a fantastic north star and the reason for it, or like it's the main one we want to see go up because it's this human feedback.”
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13 / evaluation

I achieved nothing. But with AI, because you're interacting, you feel like you're, it's not like work, but you feel like you're participating and contributing to the thing.

“I achieved nothing. But with AI, because you're interacting, you feel like you're, it's not like work, but you feel like you're participating and contributing to the thing.”
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14 / evaluation

This is like the Silicon Valley style, um, hyper scale business. And so, yeah, we moved to Silicon Valley and, uh, got some funding and iterated and built the flywheels.

“This is like the Silicon Valley style, um, hyper scale business. And so, yeah, we moved to Silicon Valley and, uh, got some funding and iterated and built the flywheels.”
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15 / evaluation

So, yeah. So finance is a machine learning ecosystem because all of these quant trading firms are running machine learning algorithms, but they're running it on a centralized platform like a marketplace.

“So, yeah. So finance is a machine learning ecosystem because all of these quant trading firms are running machine learning algorithms, but they're running it on a centralized platform like a marketplace.”
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16 / preference

I think we use at the top, spreading out to different experts and then at the bottom with rejection sampling, choosing from different paths.

“I think we use at the top, spreading out to different experts and then at the bottom with rejection sampling, choosing from different paths.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
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17 / preference

Exactly, exactly. So I think if you want to make audio work, it has to be a unique, compelling, exciting experience that they can't have anywhere else.

“Exactly, exactly. So I think if you want to make audio work, it has to be a unique, compelling, exciting experience that they can't have anywhere else.”
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18 / preference

It's the thing that gets me excited. It's, it's why I think, you know, I really love working at Chai is because it's a place of talent.

“It's the thing that gets me excited. It's, it's why I think, you know, I really love working at Chai is because it's a place of talent.”
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19 / evaluation

I think the issue that people, you know, some people may think this is an obvious fact, but running a business can be very competitive, right?

“I think the issue that people, you know, some people may think this is an obvious fact, but running a business can be very competitive, right?”
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