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6 Sept 2023

At the same time, it’s just like many of the things that I’ve gotten from really productive travel experiences that have also been analogous to experiences when I read very, very good books or I hear a very, very smart argument or something like that.

“At the same time, it’s just like many of the things that I’ve gotten from really productive travel experiences that have also been analogous to experiences when I read very, very good books or I hear a very, very smart argument or something like that.”

Speaker: Jerusalem Demsas
Episode: Jerusalem Demsas on The Dispossessed, Gulliver's Travels, and Of Boys and Men
Publisher: Conversations with Tyler

Jerusalem Demsas

What Jerusalem said.

At the same time, it’s just like many of the things that I’ve gotten from really productive travel experiences that have also been analogous to experiences when I read very, very good books or I hear a very, very smart argument or something like that.

I think reading science fiction — it’s like a way of having conversations about politics without having to necessarily feel that.