Recommends How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk. Recommends Never Split the Difference.

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…First question, what are two or three books that you've recommended most to other people? The best book on product management that I've read. It's called How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk. I encountered this book, my sister is a speech therapist and she had it on her bookshelf at home in her apartment. And I was jet lagged one night I was visiting her and I read it, and if anybody has read, Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss where he talks about how these senior FBI agents in 70s, 80s were realizing that all they were doing in their negotiating tactics were just not working and decided to try something different. And that's something is basically nonviolent communication. And he gives these amazing examples of decades of using this with kidnappers and terrorists and organized crime to defuse situations and create productive outcomes. So this book, with all due respect to FBI agents and terrorists and hijackers and kidnappers, this is about kids. So this book for me, this is what really the example is how it's communicated. It's illustrated almost like a comic book, tons of super concrete examples. And for me, I think that's when these principles really sunk in. That book really resonated with me the most, more than the book itself for Nonviolent Communication or the Never Split the Difference, both of which are awesome. So I really recommend that book. Man. I want to do a whole podcast on what you learned there, but I'm going to force myself to move on. That's awesome. This is going to be really helpful to me as a new parent. There's a book that another, I'm just going to throw out a book recommendation reverse lighting round on this topic, that Joe Hudson recent podcast guest recommended offline that I've found to be incredibly helpful. It's called Listen. It's an orange book so there's a few on Amazon and will link to them in the show notes, but it's just called Listen. And it's about why listening is the most powerful way to help your kids get through stuff that is challenging to them. I'm not going to-…

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