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Jack Clark: belief

7 May 2025 Conversations with Tyler Jack Clark on AI's Uneven Impact

“I think there is a high chance for a political movement to arrive which tries to freeze a load of human jobs in bureaucratic amber as a way to deal with the political issues posed by this incredibly powerful technology and how fast the changes are going to come from.”

— Jack Clark

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Jack Clark
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belief
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7 May 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…What do you think is the chance that we decide to protect, say, half of the jobs in existence today with laws analogous to those we find in law and medicine against strong AGI? I think there is a high chance for a political movement to arrive which tries to freeze a load of human jobs in bureaucratic amber as a way to deal with the political issues posed by this incredibly powerful technology and how fast the changes are going to come from. I don’t think that we’ll do this in a reasoned way. I think it’ll be driven by the chaotic winds of political forces. It feels like the sort of outcome that happens if we, as the companies building this stuff, and our customers don’t generate enough examples of what good transitions look like. The fewer bits of evidence you have there and the more evidence you have of larger economic changes, probably the higher chance there’ll be a desire to step in and protect workers in different domains, which comes from an impulse based around wanting to help people, but it might ultimately not be the most helpful thing over the course of decades to do that. But is it possible that’s actually, in a constrained sense, the very best outcome? People will still have a job. They’ll go somewhere in the morning. A lot of the work, especially the hard work, will be done by the AIs. Obviously, we’ll be richer, so we can afford this. All of a sudden, it won’t feel that bad to people. Life will look familiar. Isn’t that, in a sense, what we should be aiming for?…

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