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7 May 2025 Conversations with Tyler Jack Clark on AI's Uneven Impact

“I think governments will have some role of making sure that things reflect the normative preferences of their populations, which are going to continue to be varied, although perhaps AI means a certain homogenization takes place over time, but a lot of the role of government, I think, has always been to represent and encode the revealed values of a certain population.”

— Jack Clark

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Jack Clark
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7 May 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…They don’t make better decisions in Peruvian government than the current Peruvian government. Peruvian bureaucrats make Google things. That’s just added on top to current Peruvian government, but for all their decisions or a lot of the big decisions. The kids are taught by AI. AI drones and detection systems, it’s all AI. Some of it’s LLMs. What’s the Peruvian part in there? We did some work on this called collective constitutional AI at Anthropic, where Claude has a constitution. Then we did this exercise of looking across America to find additional constitutional principles that might need to be included in it. We looked for ones of high agreement and also ones of low agreement. I think governments will have some role of making sure that things reflect the normative preferences of their populations, which are going to continue to be varied, although perhaps AI means a certain homogenization takes place over time, but a lot of the role of government, I think, has always been to represent and encode the revealed values of a certain population. I think that work is not going away. You’re going to need to adapt these systems and inject certain values into them for the people that are using them and customers of them. A lot of that could be fig leaves, though. Maybe the AIs — they speak with Peruvian accents. There’re the Peruvian flags on all the smartphones or their successor devices.…

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