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Sarah Paine: belief

25 Jul 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Sarah Paine — How Imperial Japan defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

“I believe when WikiLeaks leaked a lot of their memos and things and the New York Times was reporting on it, what it revealed was incredibly accurate reporting of whatever place they were assigned to, and describing things in really accurate detail that would enable US policymakers then to make an accurate assessment and determine to do what's next.”

— Sarah Paine

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Sarah Paine
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belief
Recorded
25 Jul 2025
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…This leads in very nicely to the next question. Lydia Dean asks, "In the spirit of the Meiji delegates sending out to explicitly study the West, where would the United States do well to send delegates today?" Delegates today? Our allies. Start by apologizing to them. That would be step one. I can't see that ever happening. We have all these international organizations. Use them. We're in the process of firing the State Department. I believe when WikiLeaks leaked a lot of their memos and things and the New York Times was reporting on it, what it revealed was incredibly accurate reporting of whatever place they were assigned to, and describing things in really accurate detail that would enable US policymakers then to make an accurate assessment and determine to do what's next. But that's not what we're doing. This is actually a very interesting take you gave to me offline once about the WikiLeaks leaks of the State Department documents. You were like, "Oh, wow, they're kind of on it. These seem like good memos."…

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