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22 Sept 2024 Lenny's Podcast Becoming a super IC: Lessons from 12 years as a PM individual contributor | Tal Raviv (Product Lead at Riverside)

“I think if you feel that you're building something that you really want to see happen in the world and you really want to make sure it's done well, you don't trust anybody else to do it, you want to be the one to work on it and make sure that this gets done well in the world because it matters to you, then I think you're in a really strong place from that point of view that really gets you motivated and you want to be hands-on and it keeps you really focused.”

— Tal Raviv

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Tal Raviv
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22 Sept 2024
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Lenny's Podcast

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…For someone that's trying to pursue this path, trying to avoid these sorts of things and say just trying to be successful. And as an IC looking back, is there anything that you've learned that has helped you be successful and pursue the thing that makes you happy? I think the big elephant of the room is compensation. I think whenever I have this discussion with friends and colleagues, that's always the... Well, there's two things, there's compensation and there's can it be interesting? Don't you get sick of it, right? So I think that classic book drive, motivation comes from autonomy, mastery and purpose. And I think for me, the IC role, it definitely is very autonomous. Being a product manager is one of the most autonomous roles and most amount of agency you can ask for. I think mastery, I once heard Mark Keating say in a workshop, product manager role is one of those roles where you can just keep doing it for a really long time because it just keeps changing. And you can change industries without having background in it, the situation changes every time you do it in every different context, it's just so different and interesting. And purpose is one that I took for granted in the past and I learned how important it is. I think if you feel that you're building something that you really want to see happen in the world and you really want to make sure it's done well, you don't trust anybody else to do it, you want to be the one to work on it and make sure that this gets done well in the world because it matters to you, then I think you're in a really strong place from that point of view that really gets you motivated and you want to be hands-on and it keeps you really focused. I want to drill into something you said around compensation and just generally what you've done to stay down this path. Because I know the compensation, that's a real thing. Is there anything you've seen or done that has helped you be more comfortable with that in terms of getting the comp you think you deserve being an IC this long being basically a super IC?…

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