Evidence receipt / evaluation
Published · transcript-backedBen Gilbert: evaluation
19 May 2022 Acquired Capital-Efficient Growth (with Zoom CEO Eric Yuan & Veeva CEO Peter Gassner)
“You dig deeper and say, what are you using now? And they say, oh, yeah, because I have a solution for this.”
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- Ben Gilbert
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- evaluation
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- 19 May 2022
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- Acquired
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…I'll go first, this is really easy. I talked to three or four potential customers for our first product. They all said, we don't need that. That's not interesting. It's not a good thing to do. But I wasn't listening to that. I was listening, are they emotionally attached to where they're getting their product now? Are they emotionally attached to those people? Do I feel like they're getting value out of that thing? I could tell in their responses that they weren't attached and they weren't getting value. All four customers said it was a bad idea. They're all customers now, though. Let me understand the Peter formula to build a business. Ask a customer if they want your product, they say no. You dig deeper and say, what are you using now? And they say, oh, yeah, because I have a solution for this. But they just don't love it, so you build for them anyway on the bet that you can be better than their current. Yeah, you have to listen to what they feel, not what they say. They would say, yes, we're very happy with the solution. But then you dig, oh, tell me more. Why is that? What is it that you get out of it? It's like, uhm, uh, and that's when you know.…
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