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22 Sept 2024 Lenny's Podcast Becoming a super IC: Lessons from 12 years as a PM individual contributor | Tal Raviv (Product Lead at Riverside)
“I won't lie, over the years, despite everything I said, if somebody who is my same amount of experience or same cohort gets promoted and becomes a team lead and makes that decision and rises up, it does twang in my stomach, it gets in my ego.”
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