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Mike Israetel: evaluation

24 Dec 2025 Machine Learning Street Talk "I Desperately Want To Live In The Matrix" - Dr. Mike Israetel

“Think of how that's a problem real quick. It doesn't matter. It's a problem somehow.”

— Mike Israetel

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Mike Israetel
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evaluation
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24 Dec 2025
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Machine Learning Street Talk

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…Doctor Mike, do you feel that this is a contradiction? You know, we were talking earlier about, about when I see my personal trainer and I have this wonderful embodied personal experience. And you're talking about a world where the machines would be able to do everything better than us. So why would they even care about what you think about anything? And they would just get their robot to do it for them. The people in the economy or the machines? Well, know, you you you were just giving this example. You you could, you know, be a personal mentor to someone. Yeah. Why would they go to you when they could go to a machine? Because they're the additive value of labor. They're not an infinite number of machines. And so people say there's an infinite number of human desires. I don't think that's true, but there's a lot. Right? So human desires is huge stack. And the number of robots Elon has built that are actually real world solving problems yet, if you don't count a self driving fleet 0. Like, maybe some factory tests. Right? So we got a long way to go. Right? We got long way to go until we have so many robots that everyone has like 10 robots, and there's someone rubbing your feet, and your head, and jerking off, and giving you food, and giving you great books to read that'll make you a better person all at the fucking same time. That's a lot of machine hardware. Right? So once we get there, we're in an interesting place. We're asking about how many jobs are humans gonna have left. Pause. We have enough machines to solve all of our problems. Guess what definition that is? Paradise. We're done. Think of how that's a problem real quick. It doesn't matter. It's a problem somehow. Right? Oh, we got a problem. Build another machine or have a human do it. We're concerned that we're gonna run out of problems. Do you understand that we're talking about this in the real world? What a fucking absurd concern. You say, you know, it's like someone who's a who's a professional soldier being concerned that we're gonna be so peaceful and won't have war. When you saw the matrix, right, you know, that the architect, the first version of the matrix, it was too perfect. There weren't any problems.…

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