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Jennifer Pahlka: belief

9 Apr 2025 Conversations with Tyler Jennifer Pahlka on Reforming Government

“I think reinventing government happened at a time when we were just at the beginning of this digital revolution.”

— Jennifer Pahlka

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Jennifer Pahlka
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belief
Recorded
9 Apr 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…The second Bush presidency, people talked about this, what we need to do. Al Gore — some of that was good, in fact, reinventing government. We’ve been trying all along, but this is what trying looks like. Yes. I think reinventing government happened at a time when we were just at the beginning of this digital revolution. It was trying with a very 20th-century mindset. Fine, did well within that context, but we don’t need that again. We need 21st century change. We need true digital transformation. We need something that’s not stuck in the industrial ways of thinking. I don’t think we tried that. I think the efforts have just been too respectful of old ways of working and the institutions. There was really not an appetite, I think, for what I would call responsible disruptive change. Would it have worked? Is there such a thing?…

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