Ben Gilbert: belief

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…We'll probably talk about this more next time. I didn't realize it was Columbia University's campus there. When Junior decided to get in and start developing, building Rockefeller Center, they leased it from Columbia, and then they ultimately bought it. Fascinating. In part two, we'll have a lot to say about universities and Rockefellers in New York. We haven't touched a lot on the personal side of Rockefeller other than saying he was deeply religious, believed he should make a lot of money, and then do interesting things with it. There's a lot of very good things he does with it that I think we’ll save for part two. And a lot of his idiosyncratic things around being afraid of death, wanting to live a long time, and his health obsessions. I think a lot of that especially starts to show up in his old age. But David, bring us home here to 1890. Yeah. It's funny we're going to recount now what will ultimately become the beginning of the downfall of Standard Oil. It's weird being at this moment in the story because they've literally won. I don't think we've ever had this before. The only thing that can bring them down is the government.…

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