Evidence receipt / uncertainty
Published · transcript-backedJennifer Pahlka: uncertainty
9 Apr 2025 Conversations with Tyler Jennifer Pahlka on Reforming Government
“I don’t know what’s going to happen. I do think this is the disruption that we’re getting, whether it’s the disruption we wanted.”
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- Jennifer Pahlka
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- uncertainty
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- 9 Apr 2025
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- Conversations with Tyler
Transcript context
…Does that mean we need something like DOGE? I’ve lived near DC for about 40 years of my life. I haven’t seen anyone succeed with regulatory reforms. You can abolish an agency, but to really reform the process hasn’t worked. Maybe the best iteration we can get is to break a bunch of things now. That will be painful, people will hate it, but you have a chance in the next administration to put some of them back together again. Maybe it’s just in a large country, there’s no other way to do it. We have separation of powers. The first two years of DOGE will seem terrible, but 8, 12, 16 years from now, we’ll be glad we did it. Is that possible? I don’t know what’s going to happen. I do think this is the disruption that we’re getting, whether it’s the disruption we wanted. The question of whether it could have been done in a more orderly manner is a tough one. I just feel sad that we didn’t try. Are you sure we didn’t try?…
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