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Jennifer Pahlka: uncertainty

9 Apr 2025 Conversations with Tyler Jennifer Pahlka on Reforming Government

“I think you may see countries realize this and take more drastic steps to maintain their sovereignty, which I don’t know how they’re going to do it.”

— Jennifer Pahlka

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Jennifer Pahlka
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uncertainty
Recorded
9 Apr 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…Let’s say you’re the nation of Peru, and AI becomes more important. You run a lot of your education system through American AI, a lot of your military, your cybersecurity, processing of social services. At the end of all that, after, I don’t know, 15 years, are you even a sovereign nation still? Are we seeing this fundamental shift in what a government is? If the US government does something, at least it’s US AI. Other than the US and China, it’s far from clear how many countries will have their own AI. What’s going to become of Peru? I can’t answer that question, [laughs] but it’s an excellent question. I think you may see countries realize this and take more drastic steps to maintain their sovereignty, which I don’t know how they’re going to do it. I think it’s just stay backward, right? They could just not use AI, and probably some will make that decision.…

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