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Austan Goolsbee: evaluation

25 Jun 2025 Conversations with Tyler Austan Goolsbee on Central Banking as a Data Dog

“Unemployment is way higher than what we think of as the natural rate, and inflation is soaring.”

— Austan Goolsbee

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Austan Goolsbee
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evaluation
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25 Jun 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…Now, you mentioned the post-pandemic inflation and the role of the supply side. When I look at that inflation, I see prices really haven’t come back down. They’ve stayed up, and I see service prices are also quite high and went up a lot, so I tend to think it was mostly demand side. Now, why is that wrong? There’re two parts to that. I won’t say why it’s wrong, but here are my questions. If you’re firmly a ‘this-all-came-from-demand’ guy, (A) you’ve got to answer, why did inflation begin soaring in the US when the unemployment rate is over 6 percent? Or we could turn it into potential output terms if you want, but output is below our estimate of potential. Unemployment is way higher than what we think of as the natural rate, and inflation is soaring. That already should make you a little questioning. I can cite M2. You may not like it. M2 went up 40 percent over a few-year period, right?…

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