Lenny's Podcast / episode intelligence
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01 / belief
“What's it going to be? But if you actually look at the losing my job to AI bucket, there's actually a role that is even more worried about losing their job and I believe that is data analytics.”
02 / belief
“Even the lowest is still fairly high. So I would say people are feeling somewhat less burnt out, somewhat healthier working for a startup.”
03 / belief
“I think more than anything, what I would like to highlight here is that we tend to think of things way too often in black and white terms.”
04 / uncertainty
“I don't know if we have the audience to do that, but that'd be really interesting.”
05 / uncertainty
“We talked about this earlier. I don't know how much more there's to add here. Basically again, it's not that this function is in big trouble necessarily.”
06 / belief
“I mean, I think my HVAC technician is feeling pretty great about his career right now burning hot in Florida.”
07 / uncertainty
“I don't know how many innings. I don't know if there's innings in cricket, but it's definitely baseball.”
08 / belief
“People are reporting that their company's going all in on agents, all in on these technologies, and it does feel like they may be pushed out at some point, so the worry level is high. And I think if you're watching this, you're starting to notice that there's a ton of ambivalence right now in the community, and a ton of clashes between emotions, feeling energized and enjoying my job, and at the same time, not being very optimistic about it and feeling tired from it and feeling worried that all of that enjoyment is going to end one day when the company I work for decides that I'm no longer needed.”
09 / belief
“I think what's going on here is that again, people are lacking optimism compared to what they were.”
10 / belief
“I think people miss feeling smart sometimes. I think I thought once upon a time about myself that I'm smart.”
11 / belief
“I think obviously there are good arguments for flatness and lack of hierarchy, but I am curious to see where this goes given the importance of who your manager is on your wellbeing.”
12 / uncertainty
“I don't know if you have this in this deck, but a glimmer of hope that you pointed out is that enjoyment of work is actually still very high, that it's burnout, but also people still at the same levels last year actually, really enjoying their work.”
13 / belief
“I would say to all of you who might be feeling that guilt, AI is an incredible technology.”
14 / belief
“I really agree with you, Lenny. And I think that given the pace of change of the technology, I really do feel that too much of our focus is being spent on mastering the technology and trying to understand what the heck we should be doing with these new releases, new models, new capabilities, loop engineering, whatever the next thing will be next week.”
15 / evaluation
“Whereas, the big picture in this survey, and I think the thing that stood out to us the most, is how bifurcated the workforce is right now.”
16 / evaluation
“I became a psychologist by academic training at least because my focus has always been on people. And if I had to share a closing thought to wrap up all of this research, I would say that having the most advanced AI and the access to the best models in the world won't determine whether your organization succeeds.”
17 / prediction
“The prophecy was given to the fools, so I'm not going to try and be a prophet. But yes, I doubt it's going to get more normal and normalized statistically than this.”
18 / evaluation
“One explanation, for example, is that at the top of the pyramid, VPs are benefiting more from AI because they're getting all of this stream of information and knowledge being processed by AI, making their jobs a lot easier, whereas ICs are each scrambling to build all of these micro SaaS products within the companies they work for.”
19 / evaluation
“I'm the most surprised by sales and go-to-market because if we are indeed in some sort of SaaSpocalypse, which I don't personally believe we are, but it's been said, then I don't think sales and go-to-market people should be feeling too great about recommending their roles.”
20 / evaluation
“There are many people that are having a really good time, a lot of people that are having a really bad time, and it's just a good way to remember and basically have empathy for the other half, especially the folks not doing as well, because not everyone is as energized.”
21 / commitment
“Because I do hope that even though much of this was a little bit tough and perhaps negative, I too, Lenny, am an eternal optimist.”
22 / preference
“I think there's something addictive about this technology, and I'll speak for myself for a second and say that I've also never had as much fun in my career as when using these technologies, and I've been using it for too many hours a day playing about and building.”
23 / uncertainty
“These are very confusing times, and I think tech employees are feeling that as well. They don't understand what's in line for them in the future, so we certainly don't know to recommend to others like, "Yeah, in five years, it's going to be great.”
24 / recommendation
“And we actually followed up on the burnout point and we created the Armor Framework, if you remember. And I'm really glad we did that.”