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AMA: career advice given AGI, how I research ft. Sholto & Trenton

25 Mar 2025 21 published claims 3 attributable people

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01 / uncertainty

Actually, when we did our episode together, a bunch of people, I don't know if you saw this, independently made these blog posts and Anki cards and shit where they're explaining the concept because we just kind of passed over some things.

“Actually, when we did our episode together, a bunch of people, I don't know if you saw this, independently made these blog posts and Anki cards and shit where they're explaining the concept because we just kind of passed over some things.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

02 / uncertainty

I guess, but you also can't invest it in specific things. And, I don't know. I might change my mind in the future and can restart it, and I've been contributing for a few years now.

“I guess, but you also can't invest it in specific things. And, I don't know. I might change my mind in the future and can restart it, and I've been contributing for a few years now.”
Speaker
Trenton Bricken
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

03 / commitment

I will also mention that all I have to do is ask them questions, and I do think it's much harder to learn a field to be a practitioner than just learn enough to ask interesting questions.

“I will also mention that all I have to do is ask them questions, and I do think it's much harder to learn a field to be a practitioner than just learn enough to ask interesting questions.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

04 / uncertainty

The human brain can store much more, so why does the human brain just not want us to memorize these kinds of things, and is actively pruning, and… yeah, I don't know.

“The human brain can store much more, so why does the human brain just not want us to memorize these kinds of things, and is actively pruning, and… yeah, I don't know.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

06 / belief

I think you do that quite proactively in terms of you deliberately introduce people that you think will be interesting to each other and this kind of stuff, so… yeah.

“I think you do that quite proactively in terms of you deliberately introduce people that you think will be interesting to each other and this kind of stuff, so… yeah.”
Speaker
Sholto Douglas
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

10 / belief

I think making sure that, like, there is a great debate of ideas on not, not just AI, but on other fields, and everything is incredibly high leverage in value.

“I think making sure that, like, there is a great debate of ideas on not, not just AI, but on other fields, and everything is incredibly high leverage in value.”
Speaker
Sholto Douglas
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

14 / evaluation

This is also why I'm skeptical of big grand schemes like nationalization or some public-private partnership or just generally shaking up the landscape too much, because I do think we're in one of the better..

“This is also why I'm skeptical of big grand schemes like nationalization or some public-private partnership or just generally shaking up the landscape too much, because I do think we're in one of the better..”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

15 / commitment

Mostly because- it's not even the long-term impact over years, though I think that is part of it and I do regret all the episodes I did without using Speech Marking Cards, because all the insights have just sort of faded away.

“Mostly because- it's not even the long-term impact over years, though I think that is part of it and I do regret all the episodes I did without using Speech Marking Cards, because all the insights have just sort of faded away.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

16 / evaluation

I think my answer at the moment is that the sort of pre-training objective doesn't necessarily- like it imbues with this nice flexible general knowledge about the world, but doesn't necessarily imbue the skill of making novel connections or research.

“I think my answer at the moment is that the sort of pre-training objective doesn't necessarily- like it imbues with this nice flexible general knowledge about the world, but doesn't necessarily imbue the skill of making novel connections or research.”
Speaker
Sholto Douglas
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

17 / evaluation

I mean, I feel like AI is one of the most multi-disciplinary fields that one can imagine, because there's no field, no domain of human knowledge that is not relevant to understanding what a future society of different kinds of beings will look like.

“I mean, I feel like AI is one of the most multi-disciplinary fields that one can imagine, because there's no field, no domain of human knowledge that is not relevant to understanding what a future society of different kinds of beings will look like.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

19 / prediction

" I expect that trend line to continue, basically, as you go from this model of, "Well, I'm working with some model that's assisting me on my computer, and it's basically a pairing session," to, "I'm managing a small team," through to, "I'm managing a division or a company".

“" I expect that trend line to continue, basically, as you go from this model of, "Well, I'm working with some model that's assisting me on my computer, and it's basically a pairing session," to, "I'm managing a small team," through to, "I'm managing a division or a company".”
Speaker
Sholto Douglas
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

20 / prediction

I feel like that job's still gonna be around. It's funny, because I studied computer science, and in retrospect- at the time, you could've become a software engineer or something.

“I feel like that job's still gonna be around. It's funny, because I studied computer science, and in retrospect- at the time, you could've become a software engineer or something.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast
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