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#502 – Psychiatry, Insane Asylums, Mental Illness, ECT, Lobotomies, Freud & Jung

17 Sept 2026 5 published claims 0 attributable people
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With both antipsychotics and antidepressants, the two main classes of psychotropic drugs that we use, they’re at best partially effective and they don’t work for a significant fraction of patients who are given them.

“With both antipsychotics and antidepressants, the two main classes of psychotropic drugs that we use, they’re at best partially effective and they don’t work for a significant fraction of patients who are given them.”
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02 / evaluation

We don’t have a psychiatric penicillin for any of the conditions we’re gonna be talking about. That doesn’t mean we can’t do some things that help, but the help is quite limited, and it’s important to understand both the ways in which we have progressed and the limits of that progress, and also to understand that when we treat something, sometimes we create new problems—what we call iatrogenic problems, things caused by the interventions that we use.

“We don’t have a psychiatric penicillin for any of the conditions we’re gonna be talking about. That doesn’t mean we can’t do some things that help, but the help is quite limited, and it’s important to understand both the ways in which we have progressed and the limits of that progress, and also to understand that when we treat something, sometimes we create new problems—what we call iatrogenic problems, things caused by the interventions that we use.”
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03 / belief

We have something also that the ancients recognized: dementia, the loss, really the loss of our mind, as it were. But then we also have other kinds of disturbance of our mental faculties that generally we think of as more minor, but I don’t want to make light of them because often people suffer from these things, genuinely suffer pretty badly.

“We have something also that the ancients recognized: dementia, the loss, really the loss of our mind, as it were. But then we also have other kinds of disturbance of our mental faculties that generally we think of as more minor, but I don’t want to make light of them because often people suffer from these things, genuinely suffer pretty badly.”
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I think a lot of this is public policy that has really abandoned treatment for the seriously mentally ill, and you see it on the streets of our cities.

“I think a lot of this is public policy that has really abandoned treatment for the seriously mentally ill, and you see it on the streets of our cities.”
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05 / belief

The categories that we have all become familiar with, that we’re told are real diseases like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, major depression, are beginning to falter, and we’re beginning to worry about whether those diagnoses are real ways of thinking about the world and may in fact mislead us. Because if we think there’s something called schizophrenia or the schizophrenias, as the inventor of that term put it, if we think there’s something like that and we try to research where it comes from, but that’s not really what’s going on, obviously we’re probably gonna not make the progress we could be making if we had a better diagnostic system.

“The categories that we have all become familiar with, that we’re told are real diseases like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, major depression, are beginning to falter, and we’re beginning to worry about whether those diagnoses are real ways of thinking about the world and may in fact mislead us. Because if we think there’s something called schizophrenia or the schizophrenias, as the inventor of that term put it, if we think there’s something like that and we try to research where it comes from, but that’s not really what’s going on, obviously we’re probably gonna not make the progress we could be making if we had a better diagnostic system.”
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