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Laura Burkhauser

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01 / evaluation

When it comes to the default, that is where we do do, we look at external evals, and then we run some of our own on common customer use cases to find out, like, generally we think that people are going to have the best experience.

“When it comes to the default, that is where we do do, we look at external evals, and then we run some of our own on common customer use cases to find out, like, generally we think that people are going to have the best experience.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

02 / uncertainty

I don't know if you can remember the first few things you put on the internet, Nathan, but my guess is that you're like, You would cringe if you looked at them now, knowing how sophisticated you've become in your creations.

“I don't know if you can remember the first few things you put on the internet, Nathan, but my guess is that you're like, You would cringe if you looked at them now, knowing how sophisticated you've become in your creations.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

03 / belief

I'm kind of like playfully thinking about video or film as a medium. But when something's about artistic expression, art, I think, tends to have a way of reacting to the technology of the day, to the culture of the day in ways that surprise us.

“I'm kind of like playfully thinking about video or film as a medium. But when something's about artistic expression, art, I think, tends to have a way of reacting to the technology of the day, to the culture of the day in ways that surprise us.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

04 / belief

I think like where I, have a lot of faith that the, that long term, there will be big shifts in labor, but there won't, I am not like a subscriber to there being permanent losers and irrevocable losers, unless that is the society that we choose to build.

“I think like where I, have a lot of faith that the, that long term, there will be big shifts in labor, but there won't, I am not like a subscriber to there being permanent losers and irrevocable losers, unless that is the society that we choose to build.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

05 / belief

I think that we are betting on the main bet that we've made with our agent is trying to build a very generalized harness and to give the agent access to a bunch of low-level tools, assuming that generalized intelligence is going to get better and better, and that we'll use that we'll use like probably a handful of like whatever model Anthropic or OpenAI or Gemini comes out with that, you know, when, yeah, that when the next cloud model drops, we'll have it evaled within 15 minutes and in the product, and that building for that, at least for the short to medium term, is the right bet to make, rather than investing a lot of time and money and research trying to keep up with the labs.

“I think that we are betting on the main bet that we've made with our agent is trying to build a very generalized harness and to give the agent access to a bunch of low-level tools, assuming that generalized intelligence is going to get better and better, and that we'll use that we'll use like probably a handful of like whatever model Anthropic or OpenAI or Gemini comes out with that, you know, when, yeah, that when the next cloud model drops, we'll have it evaled within 15 minutes and in the product, and that building for that, at least for the short to medium term, is the right bet to make, rather than investing a lot of time and money and research trying to keep up with the labs.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

06 / recommendation

Like I actually think you should be using Claude code, but I think like the package that we're talking about where it's think about what you're doing is like you're telling Claude code to hire Underlord as your video team and then to go off and do, to go off and do its job the way that it thinks it ought to be done best.

“Like I actually think you should be using Claude code, but I think like the package that we're talking about where it's think about what you're doing is like you're telling Claude code to hire Underlord as your video team and then to go off and do, to go off and do its job the way that it thinks it ought to be done best.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

07 / preference

I think like, I'm really excited about, but think this is where you kind of get into a blurry line, heavily augmented recorded media. So for what it's worth, you didn't ask, but like, I will say that like, there is a part of me, maybe like a stodgy part of me that just feels possessive about human expression, human face, facial expression, and feels a little bit unsettled by AI clones or something that purports to be me but isn't.

“I think like, I'm really excited about, but think this is where you kind of get into a blurry line, heavily augmented recorded media. So for what it's worth, you didn't ask, but like, I will say that like, there is a part of me, maybe like a stodgy part of me that just feels possessive about human expression, human face, facial expression, and feels a little bit unsettled by AI clones or something that purports to be me but isn't.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

08 / evaluation

In addition to some of the other kind of general pause AI, stop AI kind of stuff that's like in the air, but like strictly speaking from a creator perspective, I think there's like a, I feel like I'm going insane because everyone is telling me that this stuff is super good and it sucks and I hate working with it, which I think is a very reasonable perspective for the average creator to have.

“In addition to some of the other kind of general pause AI, stop AI kind of stuff that's like in the air, but like strictly speaking from a creator perspective, I think there's like a, I feel like I'm going insane because everyone is telling me that this stuff is super good and it sucks and I hate working with it, which I think is a very reasonable perspective for the average creator to have.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

09 / evaluation

I thought that was pretty funny. But all of that is to say that like I, This may be an unpopular opinion, so fun for you because it's a little bit controversial, but I don't think that you can't, you should underestimate the importance of vibes in like aesthetic evals.

“I thought that was pretty funny. But all of that is to say that like I, This may be an unpopular opinion, so fun for you because it's a little bit controversial, but I don't think that you can't, you should underestimate the importance of vibes in like aesthetic evals.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

10 / evaluation

I don't know that the main story should be that this is like threatening and going to displace a ton of jobs because it's not clear to me it's going to displace a lot of jobs.

“I don't know that the main story should be that this is like threatening and going to displace a ton of jobs because it's not clear to me it's going to displace a lot of jobs.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

11 / preference

Because we just, if you do it that way, not only do we think because of the way that the agent coordinates within Descript and understands the capital D, capital M Descript model and how everything in the app is set up, like we have important context in the Underlord layer where you're just going to have a better time than if you're asking Claude to coordinate across a bunch of tools.

“Because we just, if you do it that way, not only do we think because of the way that the agent coordinates within Descript and understands the capital D, capital M Descript model and how everything in the app is set up, like we have important context in the Underlord layer where you're just going to have a better time than if you're asking Claude to coordinate across a bunch of tools.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

12 / evaluation

and you want to fight your tools the entire time. And then I think the other reason we're not seeing a lot of it is because there's a lot of stigma right now for people with the kinds of taste and skills to be able to make good stuff.

“and you want to fight your tools the entire time. And then I think the other reason we're not seeing a lot of it is because there's a lot of stigma right now for people with the kinds of taste and skills to be able to make good stuff.”
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution
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