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Published · transcript-backedLenny Rachitsky: uncertainty
5 Apr 2026 Lenny's Podcast Head of Growth (Anthropic): “Claude is growing itself at this point” | Amol Avasare
“" Just like, "They're so far ahead." And it shows the power of focus and just, I guess, I don't know, all the things you all did.”
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- Lenny Rachitsky
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- uncertainty
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- 5 Apr 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…laude. We had a chatbot before ChatGPT was launched. And we had ultimately chosen not to launch it for safety reasons. I think the team didn't want to kick off effectively like an AI global arms race. And ChatGPT launched and they got insane traction and that just naturally sort of pulled them towards consumer. There's another world where if Anthropic had launched Claude first, maybe did the other way around even with all that focused stuff. So who knows? It's always hard to say, looking back at some of these things. Wow, I didn't know that. I think also, people just don't realize how far behind Anthropic was. Right now, it's like, of course, they're amazing. But like, I just remember when people were talking about Anthropic, we were raising money. I was like, "There's no way they're going to compete with OpenAI at this point. It's so over. " Just like, "They're so far ahead." And it shows the power of focus and just, I guess, I don't know, all the things you all did. It is absurd how far you all have come and how successful and how things have changed so quickly. Yeah. And I would say, I very much agree. I think a lot of that comes down to our leadership team. We have a number of people who've worked at, call it the best companies you know in the world, very senior people. And I think almost uniformly, everyone was like, "This is the strongest leadership team out of any of those companies." And so I think a lot comes from them, and then we're just very lucky to have incredible people. I think that helps a lot as well.…
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