Gary Marcus: commitment

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…But then to your point about the hype, my take on what's been happening is that DeepMind, OpenAI, and Anthropic have been full of people who were thinking about superintelligence from the very beginning at the highest levels of leadership. And therefore, they have been considering, at least somewhat, both the loss of control risk and the concentration of power risk who gets the control of the AIs from the beginning. And this is documented in all sorts of ways. You can look at their old writings and so forth, some of the leaked emails. And then you might ask, well, why are they building it? If they've been taking these if they've been thinking about these risks, can't they see loss of control Loss of control, concentration of power. So loss of control is what if we don't solve the alignment problem in time and the AIs take over. And then concentration of power is if we do solve the alignment problem, like, who controls the AIs? What goals do we put in them? Do we risk becoming a dictatorship or some sort of crazy oligarchy or whatever? So you can find writings from people at these companies, both senior researchers and also the CEOs and so forth, going back decades talking about these things. And And then you might ask, well, why are they doing this? Why are they racing to build these things if they were I mean, Daria seems like the most extreme version of that question. Like he seems still very much publicly saying that there's very serious risk. And he seems very much publicly pushing the models forward. Like, I understand, though. I didn't see it myself, that at some point he was saying, we won't build frontier models because of these risks. And now he's obviously building frontier models. And so the key here is, I guess I would say in a single word, it…

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