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22 May 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken
“I think that now that RL's come back, papers building on Andy Jones's “Scaling scaling laws for board games” are interesting.”
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- 22 May 2025
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…If somebody wanted to be an AI researcher right now, if you could give them an open problem, or the kind of open problem that is very likely to be quite impressive, what would it be? I think that now that RL's come back, papers building on Andy Jones's “Scaling scaling laws for board games” are interesting. Investigating these questions like the ones you asked before. Is the model actually learning to do more than its previous pass at K? Or is it just discovering that… Exploring questions like that deeply are interesting, scaling laws for RL, basically. I'd be very curious to see how much the marginal increase is in meta learning from a new task, or something.…
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