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Nathan Labenz: belief

14 Aug 2026 The Cognitive Revolution Lindy Teammate: Flo Crivello on Multiplayer Agents, Memory & Why He'd Ban the Chinese Models He Uses

“I do worry when I see the picture of Sam and Dario not holding hands that if there's a if there's a picture on our tombstone, I think that might be the one.”

— Nathan Labenz

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Speaker
Nathan Labenz
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belief
Recorded
14 Aug 2026
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

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…Well, I I I think, like, foreign relations and and diplomacy are also very pragmatic. Some countries with very vicious, like, disagreements are all managing to reach to reach agreements. Like, I think I think we can we can probably figure something out. And by the way, I think that ship has sailed anyway. And I think, like, we have ample evidence of, for example, Chinese spies attempting bio attacks just to, like, test the on American territory. And so and I'm I'm I don't know what we're doing over there, but I would not be surprised if I I don't think we're, like, free of of anything of it either. Right? So, you know, I I think at the end of the day, regardless of of what we do and, like, regulate the models on that or not, I I think they're gonna it will be the rational self interest to to make a deal. I hope we're rational. I hope we're all rational enough to take these rational self interest moves despite recent insult. I do worry when I see the picture of Sam and Dario not holding hands that if there's a if there's a picture on our tombstone, I think that might be the one. And I do think that's a very very real risk factor at the international level as well that the Chinese do care about being insulted. They do care about these issues of face and whatnot. I Yeah.…

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