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Published · transcript-backedMax Schoening: observation
3 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion)
“We're launching a new feature soon and we're working on this landing page to describe the feature. And I found that when people make landing pages, first of all, their writing skills just deteriorate immediately because they want to sound clever and marketing speak comes out of their mouth.”
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- Max Schoening
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- 3 May 2026
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…Is there an example of this from some of the products you worked on just to make this real for people other than Milkshake example, obviously? There's a very recent one which is more about communication. We're launching a new feature soon and we're working on this landing page to describe the feature. And I found that when people make landing pages, first of all, their writing skills just deteriorate immediately because they want to sound clever and marketing speak comes out of their mouth. And I'm like, "Wait, that's not how you would explain it to a friend." And then if I'm communicating this product to you, just pretend you're standing in front of a whiteboard. What's the manic thing that you're drawing on the whiteboard to communicate this versus, okay, now go back to the thing you just designed, look at it? Are you telling me that those are the same thing? Are you telling me that you understand what this thing does and that zoom out? So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to pick on individual recent things though. Okay. As we close out this conversation, there's something I want to get here. You have this hot take on universal basic income. It's completely out of the blue, but I think it's interesting to hear. There's this idea that with AI emerging, we may not need to work. We'll just get some UBI and enjoy our life and you have this hot take that maybe we already have universal basic income. What's going on?…
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