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3 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion)
“I think before, it was very easy to always say, "Well, I will never be able to do this because insert skill issue." And I think we're realizing that even if you have the skills at your fingertips because now, I don't know, an AGI adjacent model helps you.”
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- 3 May 2026
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…That is really interesting. What do you find is key to people being successful in this new world? There's a lot of designers, a lot of PMs at Notion. What do you find is separating the ones that are thriving and will do well in this coming future versus ones that may fall behind? I suspect that this is also something that has always been the case, and we would just categorize this as founder versus not. And do you start a startup versus not, which is agency. I think before, it was very easy to always say, "Well, I will never be able to do this because insert skill issue." And I think we're realizing that even if you have the skills at your fingertips because now, I don't know, an AGI adjacent model helps you. The thing that matters is agency, and I don't think agency is very evenly distributed in the world. And I think people who have true agency and they understand that the world around them is malleable will do great. And the folks who stick to, "Tell me really, what does it mean to be a PM? What does it mean to be a designer? And what's my job as an engineer?" I think that will be much harder and cultivate agency. I think that's the thing. Is there an example of someone using agency ... a good example at Notion of someone just leaning into that and doing ... and maybe shipping something, changing the way something was happening at Notion, just to give us a like, "Oh, wow. I see what you're talking about"?…
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