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Trenton Bricken: belief

22 May 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

“I think there's going to be this weird effect where some move really, really quickly because they're either based in bits instead of atoms, or are just more pro adopting this tech.”

— Trenton Bricken

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Speaker
Trenton Bricken
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
22 May 2025
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…You're evading my question. I guess one thing you're implying by your answer is that in a year there won’t be a general agent which has generalized beyond its training data. If you don't specifically train it to do taxes, it won't be good at that. I think it could do that. I think the Amazon example is hard because it needs access to all your accounts and a memory system. Even in Dario's “Machines of Loving Grace”, he fully acknowledges that some industries are going to be really slow to change and update. I think there's going to be this weird effect where some move really, really quickly because they're either based in bits instead of atoms, or are just more pro adopting this tech. But I want an answer to this particular question. Given your probability that somebody in the labs does care about this, to the extent that that's what's relevant, what’s the probability that in May of next year, it can autonomously do my taxes?…

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