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Lex Fridman: belief

9 Apr 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #464 – Dave Smith: Israel, Ukraine, Epstein, Mossad, Conspiracies & Antisemitism

“I think legitimately that statement, removing the trolling from it, is the revisionist history statement that I think is wrong, and the invasion of the Soviet Union would’ve happened no matter what.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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belief
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9 Apr 2025
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…this thing becoming what it ultimately became. Whereas this might’ve just been an invasion of Poland, this may not have been this whole cascade of the worst thing that ever happened in human history. Now, the retelling of that is always, people go, “He said Churchill was the chief villain of the war.” But it’s like, no, not exactly. You know what I mean? He’s making a point, and I think he’s putting out right now a long series on World War II, he just put the prologue to it out, which was excellent, by the way. Listen, after it’s out, maybe I’ll come back and regret saying this, but I don’t think I will. I really have trust that Darryl will handle this responsibly. And in fact, I think that he might be… And not because he’s involved, this is his angle or what he’s attempting to do. I think just that he’s going to tell the truth and the truth will take you where it takes you. I think he’s actually going to probably serve a function of bringing a lot of those types kind of back to reality. If you think he’s going to be excusing the atrocities of the Nazis in this thing, I don’t think you’re going to be happy with the end product, if that’s what you are coming into it for. Okay. One thing I want to say is, I think calling Daryl Nazi and Nazi sympathizer is just wrong, and it does a lot of damage. I think he has a lot of value to his podcast. I think there’s several things to sort of make very clear. I think he’s a really interesting guy, I’m sure I’ll talk to him in the future. But I just want to lay on the table that I think what he’s saying about Churchill is just dead wrong. I think legitimately that statement, removing the trolling from it, is the revisionist history statement that I think is wrong, and the invasion of the Soviet Union would’ve happened no matter what. And possibly, which I’m actually learning a lot more, Stalin could have gone the other way as well. That was going to be a global war, no matter what. Churchill, the role of Churchill, we can debate. And I still don’t think he was a main instigator of that expansion there, there’s a lot of historical documentation of that. Well, look, that’s a fair debate to have, and it’d be interesting to see you two kind of talk about that. Or maybe not even debate it, but just have a conversation about that, that would be great.…

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